The Racism out of Pacquiao's Success is Di****able.
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9 pages and very little's actually been said so far on the topic. the history of african-american relations with filipinos is pretty interesting, actually.
it starts back in the philippine-american war over 100 years ago (you know, the one roger mayweather was talking about, bullets bouncing off soldiers).
basically the filipinos were fighting a revolutionary war against the spaniards at the time, and they had taken over pretty much the whole country except for manila. they were on the verge of winning, they were just starving out the spanish forces. but spain was also fighting the spanish-american war (the one where they gave up puerto rico and cuba to the US), and losing that too. so spain surrendered to the US, and as part of the conditions for their surrender, they had to "sell" the philippines to the US while they still could. so they did, and the US claimed ownership of the country, and beat down the philippine revolutionary forces. the americans just had a stronger military than the spaniards. that was the philippine-american war.
there was a lot of resistance to it in the US at the time, not too different from the vietnam war and iraq. people like mark twain were writing about how this contradicted everything the americans believed about themselves, that they were different from their former colonial masters england, that they weren't going to build an empire with colonies. but that sort of thing only works when the conflict is prolonged, like in vietnam. the americans lose their taste for conflict when enough american soldiers are dying, but that wasn't really happening against the philippines, cause american soldiers were uncommonly brutal and efficient in the conflict.
the african-american community was actually pretty sympathetic for the filipinos. the war was being marketed back home as an american responsibility to "civilize and educated our little brown brothers", which was funny because after 300 years as a spanish conflict, filipinos were predominantly catholic, there was a large educated community, manila was known as the 'pearl of the orient' and everything. there were blacks that were insulted by the whole brown brothers thing, for obvious reasons. there were cases of black soldiers going to the philippines and coming back convinced that they were fighting an unjust war against another oppressed brown people, sort of like what the black panthers were doing during vietnam. there were even cases of black soldiers leaving the army and joining the philippine resistance.
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I'm respectful of you. Don't do that. That's immature and kinda pisses me off.
I just find it incongruous that 50K military died, and 1 million civvies.
a million civs didn't get shot.Comment
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9 pages and very little's actually been said so far on the topic. the history of african-american relations with filipinos is pretty interesting, actually.
it starts back in the philippine-american war over 100 years ago (you know, the one roger mayweather was talking about, bullets bouncing off soldiers).
basically the filipinos were fighting a revolutionary war against the spaniards at the time, and they had taken over pretty much the whole country except for manila. they were on the verge of winning, they were just starving out the spanish forces. but spain was also fighting the spanish-american war (the one where they gave up puerto rico and cuba to the US), and losing that too. so spain surrendered to the US, and as part of the conditions for their surrender, they had to "sell" the philippines to the US while they still could. so they did, and the US claimed ownership of the country, and beat down the philippine revolutionary forces. the americans just had a stronger military than the spaniards. that was the philippine-american war.
there was a lot of resistance to it in the US at the time, not too different from the vietnam war and iraq. people like mark twain were writing about how this contradicted everything the americans believed about themselves, that they were different from their former colonial masters england, that they weren't going to build an empire with colonies. but that sort of thing only works when the conflict is prolonged, like in vietnam. the americans lose their taste for conflict when enough american soldiers are dying, but that wasn't really happening against the philippines, cause american soldiers were uncommonly brutal and efficient in the conflict.
the african-american community was actually pretty sympathetic for the filipinos. the war was being marketed back home as an american responsibility to "civilize and educated our little brown brothers", which was funny because after 300 years as a spanish conflict, filipinos were predominantly catholic, there was a large educated community, manila was known as the 'pearl of the orient' and everything. there were blacks that were insulted by the whole brown brothers thing, for obvious reasons. there were cases of black soldiers going to the philippines and coming back convinced that they were fighting an unjust war against another oppressed brown people, sort of like what the black panthers were doing during vietnam. there were even cases of black soldiers leaving the army and joining the philippine resistance.
there's some more here:
hope this helped.Comment
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Ok...what will I get if I educate you???
Smallman-Raynor, Matthew; Andrew D Cliff (January 1998), "The Philippines Insurrection and the 1902–4 cholera epidemic: Part I — Epidemiological diffusion processes in war", Journal of Historical Geography 24 (1): 69–89, doi:10.1006/jhge.1997.0077
And there is so much more...
Have you ever read the book "white man's burden"???
That was basically about racism policies in the Philippines.
as far as the general's order, i dnt understand the context and i would have to see a source besides philnews. but i am always anxious to learn new facts about the atrocities committed during war, no matter what the side. nyways, as i said b4 all these acts are of an equally grizzly nature, one cannot be looked at as worse than the other imo.
so even what i posted b4 was not trying to downplay what happened in the phillipines and saying it wasnt horrid. i just thought u had the numbers wrong. but u never know about these things. u learn new things everyday.Comment
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