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    Pacquiao Or Lamotta? Who Is Greater?

    Who in your OPINION should be remembered as the greater fighter?

    Brief insight on Lamotta
    AT THE RING MAGAZINE'S gala 75th Anniversary Dinner, Jake LaMotta was recognized as having the best chin in boxing over the last 75 years. But there was much more to LaMotta than a granite chin.

    LaMotta was a clever boxer who executed the nuances of the game with fine precision. While he was able to absorb punches with little problem, he was also adept at rolling with punches to minimize the damage. He liked to play possum in the ring, lulling opponents into a false sense of confidence before unleashing his own attack. And, perhaps above all, he had a tremendous will to win. His aggressive, unrelenting style, earned him the nickname, "The Bronx Bull."

    LaMotta, born in the Bronx, New York, began boxing at an early age when his father made him fight other neighborhood kids for the entertainment of adults. A crowdpleaser even back then, the money that spectators would throw into the ring after Jake fought -- usually pennies, nickles and dimes -- helped pay the rent at home. After spending time in reform school, LaMotta turned to pro boxing in 1941 at the age of 19.

    A six-fight series with Sugar Ray Robinson largely defines LaMotta's career. They met for the first time in 1942 in New York and Robinson earned a 10-round decision. The following year they fought twice within a 21-day span in Detroit. Jake took the first fight by decision, victimizing Robinson with his first loss in 41 pro fights -- 121 bouts if you include the Sugarman's amateur career. Sugar Ray, who fought once in between the three weeks, copped a decision in the next encounter.

    The rivalry was resumed in 1945 and Robinson again took a 10-round decision in New York. But in the meantime, LaMotta was also busy fighting a slew of other top-ranked opponents. He beat world-class fighters ranging from welterweight to light heavyweight. Among his victims were Fritzie Zivic, George Kochan, Tommy Bell, Bert Lytell, Jose Basora, Bob Satterfield, Holman Williams and Tony Janiro.

    Despite LaMotta's impressive credentials and world ranking, he was denied a shot at the middleweight title. Frustrated and desperate to satisfy the underworld figures who controlled boxing at the time, he agreed to take a dive against Billy Fox in exchange for a title fight. LaMotta's day finally came on June 16, 1949 when he challenged champion Marcel Cerdan and won the title via 10th-round TKO. The two were scheduled to meet in a rematch but the plane carrying Cerdan back to the United States crashed and Cerdan died.

    In 1950, LaMotta successfully defended the crown against Tiberio Mitri and Laurent Dauthuille. Trailing on the scorecards, LaMotta staged a miraculous 15th-round knockout of Dauthuille to retain his belt. That set up the sixth and final meeting between LaMotta and Robinson.

    The legends met on February 14, 1951, in Chicago Stadium and this time Jake's middleweight crown was at stake. As the fight progressed, Robinson began to build a comfortable lead. Although LaMotta absorbed a tremendous amount of punishment he refused to fall. Finally, in the 13th round, the referee stopped the contest.

    LaMotta fought through 1952, was inactive in 1953 and retired after three fights in 1954.

    His fame was resurrected in 1981, when Robert DeNiro portrayed him in the Adacemy Award-winning film, Raging Bull.
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  • jrosales13
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    I have both in the top 30. I think it is close, very close.

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    • B.U.R.N.E.R
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      LaMotta is greater.

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      • infamous larryx
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        Originally posted by jrosales13
        i have both in the top 30. I think it is close, very close.
        whats your top 30??

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        • Pacquiaoo
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          My boy Pac. It's close though.

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          • andre the giant
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            Jake Lamotta would wreck some ****

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              Originally posted by larryx2010
              whats your top 30??
              1. "Sugar" Ray Robinson
              2. Henry Armstrong
              3. Harry Greb
              4. Benny Leonard
              5. Willie Pep
              6. Sam Langford
              7. Muhhamed Ali
              8. Joe Gans
              9. Joe Louis
              10. Ezzard Charles
              11. Barney Ross
              12. Roberto Duran
              13. Bob Fitzsimmons
              14. Ray Leonard
              15. Gene Tunney
              16. Pernell Whitaker
              17. Jack Johnson
              18. Jimmy Wilde
              19. Archie Moore
              20. Mickey Walker
              21. Tony Canzoneri
              22. Julio Cesar Chavez
              23. Sandy Saddler
              24. Jimmy McClarnin
              25. Ike Williams
              26. "Barbados" Joe Walcott
              27. George Dixon
              28. Manny Pacquiao
              29. Jake Lamotta
              30. Jack Dempsey

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                Originally posted by jrosales13
                1. "Sugar" Ray Robinson
                2. Henry Armstrong
                3. Harry Greb
                4. Benny Leonard
                5. Willie Pep
                6. Sam Langford
                7. Muhhamed Ali
                8. Joe Gans
                9. Joe Louis
                10. Ezzard Charles
                11. Barney Ross
                12. Roberto Duran
                13. Bob Fitzsimmons
                14. Ray Leonard
                15. Gene Tunney
                16. Pernell Whitaker
                17. Jack Johnson
                18. Jimmy Wilde
                19. Archie Moore
                20. Mickey Walker
                21. Tony Canzoneri
                22. Julio Cesar Chavez
                23. Sandy Saddler
                24. Jimmy McClarnin
                25. Ike Williams
                26. "Barbados" Joe Walcott
                27. George Dixon
                28. Manny Pacquiao
                29. Jake Lamotta
                30. Jack Dempsey
                When did Pac make the Top 30. What EXACT fight.

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                • SteveJarvey
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                  PAC is greater. But on a fantasy fight, Lamotta whoops Pac's ass.

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                  • jrosales13
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                    Originally posted by No Ceilings
                    When did Pac make the Top 30. What EXACT fight.
                    On my list? After Cotto....

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