Better trainer: Floyd Sr. or Roger?

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  • Eaner0919
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    #11
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    Roger is one of the most underrated trainers in the game.
    agreed and the reclamation job he did with Lock is kind of proof. Lock is really nothing special yet he keeps upsetting guys who were supposed to use him as a stepping stone

    also Roger has Jesse Vargas who is an undefeated prospect and making a bit of a name for himself also

    Sr IMO is known more for screwing with fighter's styles and messing them up

    Bojado
    Mares
    Guzman
    Dawson
    DLH

    all never really benefitted from what Sr knows

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    • DIB42
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      #12
      Originally posted by SoldierWarrior
      Jeff Mayweather, because you can understand the words coming out of his mouth without subtitles.
      I think Jeff is probably the secret ingrediant.

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      • tredh
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        #13
        Originally posted by Eaner0919
        agreed and the reclamation job he did with Lock is kind of proof. Lock is really nothing special yet he keeps upsetting guys who were supposed to use him as a stepping stone

        also Roger has Jesse Vargas who is an undefeated prospect and making a bit of a name for himself also

        Sr IMO is known more for screwing with fighter's styles and messing them up

        Bojado
        Mares
        Guzman
        Dawson
        DLH

        all never really benefitted from what Sr knows

        I gotta disagree with you on Sr. messing fighters styles up. I feel I actually saw improvement in De la Hoya when he was with Sr. I believe that it was Joan Guzman(That is Guzman you talking about?) who used to be with Sr. that dude has regressed I have not been liking his performances at all. Guzman can fight but he needs someone to keep him on track. Chad Dawson has not regressed and he has not improved greatly either.

        People have to realize none of Sr's fighters who have left have said or I haven't heard them say anything negative about Sr. training ability and what he teaches them. They have all said they have problems with his ATTITUDE and that is believable. Night and day difference from being a bad trainer and having a bad attitude. **** PBF left his father alone because of his attitude not his training ablilites.

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        • Eaner0919
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          #14
          Originally posted by tredh
          I gotta disagree with you on Sr. messing fighters styles up. I feel I actually saw improvement in De la Hoya when he was with Sr.
          nope

          Sr basically took away DLH's one shining aspect he brought with him up to 147, the left hook. He had him not planting and driving through his punches he had him playing defense and DLH was horrible at it.

          I believe that it was Joan Guzman(That is Guzman you talking about?) who used to be with Sr. that dude has regressed I have not been liking his performances at all. Guzman can fight but he needs someone to keep him on track.
          Chad Dawson has not regressed and he has not improved greatly either.
          during his stint with Floyd Dawson looked bad IMO and has looked much much better under Eddie Mustafa

          People have to realize none of Sr's fighters who have left have said or I haven't heard them say anything negative about Sr. training ability and what he teaches them.
          wrong

          Mares told me when he came back from Sr that he didn't feel comfortable and didn't really like the style.

          Bojado the same thing.

          They have all said they have problems with his ATTITUDE and that is believable. Night and day difference from being a bad trainer and having a bad attitude. **** PBF left his father alone because of his attitude not his training ablilites.
          hmm the only person who didn't like his attitude is seemingly Hatton

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            #15
            Originally posted by Eaner0919
            nope

            Sr basically took away DLH's one shining aspect he brought with him up to 147, the left hook. He had him not planting and driving through his punches he had him playing defense and DLH was horrible at it.





            during his stint with Floyd Dawson looked bad IMO and has looked much much better under Eddie Mustafa



            wrong

            Mares told me when he came back from Sr that he didn't feel comfortable and didn't really like the style.

            Bojado the same thing.


            hmm the only person who didn't like his attitude is seemingly Hatton
            We can agree to disagree but Sr. never took the left hook away from De la Hoya he had De la Hoya using his right hand more which was needed IMO.

            I can't be wrong if I said "I didn't hear any fighters" and you said the dude came back and told "YOU" meaning I didn't hear it. Never said it wasn't said.
            Dawson didn't like Sr. attitude either.

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            • Eaner0919
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              #16
              ok bro agree to disagree but Mares and Bojado both have told me his style didn't fit them

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                #17
                Originally posted by cashdon
                Dont give a damn about thread topic on the real who the F**K is that chick?????
                is anyone gonna answer this poor guys question? *holds breath*

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                • Irish Hitman
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                  #18
                  Floyd Snr has a better resume of top name fighters-Hatton and De Le Hoya
                  but
                  Roger is a better trainer- Floyd Jnr

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ussy
                    is anyone gonna answer this poor guys question? *holds breath*
                    there was a link under the picture...
                    he can figure it out from there

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