kelly pavlik has no chance against sergio martinez!!!!

[Drive Slow]

this is the easiest fight ever to pick pavlik doesnt have the workrate that paul williams has and sergio isnt gonna stand in front of kelly like almost all ohave done except for hopkins

Martinez leaves his hands down too much and he's not going to be able to slip all those straight punches from Pavlik. Add to that, Pavlik is naturally bigger and has a mean right hand and he has a decent jab.

[nujabes77]

pavlik wins this one...


easier than what mose people on here think

[Ravishing]

Did any of you even watch the Martinez vs Williams fight? Martinez keeps his hands down all the time and does tend to move around, but he's not an all defense fighter, he likes to trade. Williams was getting hit because unlike Pavlik, Williams doesn't use his reach to his advantage. Pavlik knows how to stay in front of you and ware you down. Also taking into consideration that Kelly is a full fledged Middleweight, those punches he's going to be landing are going to be much harder than what Martinez felt from Williams.

I see Martinez having his moments, but Pavlik trapping him and landing bombs throughout the fight until it's stopped.

[nujabes77]

Did any of you even watch the Martinez vs Williams fight? Martinez keeps his hands down all the time and does tend to move around, but he's not an all defense fighter, he likes to trade. Williams was getting hit because unlike Pavlik, Williams doesn't use his reach to his advantage. Pavlik knows how to stay in front of you and ware you down. Also taking into consideration that Kelly is a full fledged Middleweight, those punches he's going to be landing are going to be much harder than what Martinez felt from Williams.

I see Martinez having his moments, but Pavlik trapping him and landing bombs throughout the fight until it's stopped.

rav, what do you thyink about pav/williams? i think pavlik destroys williams easily

[Drive Slow]

rav, what do you thyink about pav/williams? i think pavlik destroys williams easily

I know you asked this question for Rav, but I have to say that Williams is overrated on this forum to the highest degree. Pavlik would run right through Williams cause the dude has no defense and I know that Pavlik could take anything that Williams would try to dish out. I'm not even the biggest Pavlik fan but I call like I see it.

[Ravishing]

rav, what do you thyink about pav/williams? i think pavlik destroys williams easily

I think Pav beats him too. Williams leaves himself open because he doesn't use his reach to his advantage, he lunges in with his head out in the open. Look how Pavlik throws, straight up, guard up, has a stiff jab that does damage (because he uses his reach) and he's simply got more power at that weight. I think it'll be a fun fight to watch, but I truly see Pavlik possibly stopping Williams late. Williams has heart, but Pavlik does as well and he's also a finisher.

I hope it happens.

[Levcon8686]

I dunno.

I like Martinez, but I dont think he will take this easy. Ya he's a better technician, but he's still there to get hit.

With Pavlik, you cant be hit...because he can hurt you.

I got Pavlik by a late round stoppage. Should be awesome fight though!!

Agree completely. Just cos Bernard Hopkins can do it, doesn't mean Sergio Martinez can. I think Martinez will start better but as he slows down, Pavlik will start getting the better of it from round 4 or 5 onwards.

[johncods]

Not everyone is bernard hopkins. Martinez has that slicksters style but gets hit alot for someone with that style much like zab judah. I notice he takes rounds off too, meaning he has stamina problems. Against a aggresive puncher like pavlik that death. I can't imagine him staying vertical when pavlik touches that chin on more than one ocassion.

[Devils Advocate]

Guess what Pavlik is?

A bigger, much stronger version of Margarito.............who owned Martinez.

I'm afraid this thread fails miserably.

If you are so confident, lets make a bet on it. 8k on Pavlik to make it interesting?

What do u say?

have you seen what Martinez looked like back then, he looked like he was 12 years old. He's matured and become a full grown junior middleweight. That being said Sergio's going to have to fight a brilliant fight in order to win. But he could present Pavlik with an array of problems first he's a southpaw second he has great foot movement and unless Pavlik took Hopkins advice he could be in for a rough night. Pavlik has no rhythm

[Bushidō]

this is the easiest fight ever to pick pavlik doesnt have the workrate that paul williams has and sergio isnt gonna stand in front of kelly like almost all ohave done except for hopkins

Pavlik > Margarito