An Unbiased Look At Pacquiao-Mayweather

[Castor_Troy]

Why does that matter? Do I ask what you do for a living?

What the???!!

Of course it matters! If you're actually in the business your opinion weighs more than other posters. (If you're not lying that is). Because you have 1st hand info.


Are in the business really?

[bmoffitt18]

You have provided enough facts and carried yourself well. All these idiots reply would be "Those are not facts yaddi yaddi". but they havent provided anything with substance. If what you have said was completely refutable then a simple link will do. but guess what they have done nothing.


GREEN for an OBJECTIVE POSTER.

Red k for not reading the rest of the posts. Some kid put up a link to the official handbook for athletes in the olympic games and on page 17 it says they can be tested at any place at any time, so clearly TS is speaking out of his ass.

[bmoffitt18]

Thank you.

TS what are your thoughts on the link that was posted that completely refutes everything you said about going to the olympics and getting a pamphlet about drug testing? Dont duck me.

[Castor_Troy]

Link please.

here it is.

post # 58

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=373665&page=6

http://www.boston.com/sports/other_s...mone_test_set/

[Castor_Troy]

Link please.

Ok let me fart on what you just said as it smell like **** too. In the meantime, how about answering back the one i qouted above and the TS retorts to your links which i presume your fellow *****s did not read and even if they did, still did not comprehend.

It's quite unfortunate not all people can be 'dazed' by you but nevertheless there are still some *****s here whose brain are not functioning anyway they just rely on what other ***** says. So you still have some fans who keeps saying "game over" thinking they're playing mafia wars on facebook. No need to despair.

BWHAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!


FUc_KIN PAWNED!!!!!


Green!!

[Ido]

An unbiased claim. I don’t really have any emotional attachment to either fighter. Hell both have beaten my current favorite.

But when it comes down to it, I can only see Manny win via K.O. otherwise Floyd will UD Manny. Its more then likely Floyd will hand Manny a dominating boxing lesson, considering Manny does poorly against skilled counter punchers.

I seriously see Floyd boxing circles around Manny, to the point of frustration.

[Castor_Troy]

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[Castor_Troy]

I dont like Shane and like Barerra. I agree they are ranked higher then him but I would favor Shane over anyone Pac has ever fought.

Another idiotic opinion there Burner

Right now Juan Manuel Marquez totally destroys Shane at 135!!!!!!

Cotto already beat Shane (hes not the same yaddi yaddi? He beat look it up)

[TintaBoricua]

Yeah? In what way?

1. Pacquiao has taken on tougher opponents.

Both have generally taken on the same quality of opponents. You can argue that some were dispatched easier than others, but they have both taken on quality opponents which is why they are generally considered a boxers a class above the entire boxing community. Pacquiao probably seems to have taken on the tougher opponents because...?...he's taken more punishment?...

Mayweather outclasses opponents, makes it look easy, and then people tend to think that the opponent was never on Mayweather's level. If Mayweather beats Mosley soundly, expect that to be discussed all over the boards.

2. Athletes have been beating olympic drug testing for years.

Probably, but does not incorporating it make it useless practice? Athletes will probably have to shell out more money to get better steroids, and they'll probably think twice before doing so, not to mention stricter regulations if they're caught.

3. No boxer is bigger than the sanctioning bodies.

Yes, I agree. Mayweather seems to be "making up the rules". I'll give you that. But given Mayweather's persona and the bias surrounding him, I'm absolutely certain that if things were the other way around, Mayweather would be catching a lot (A LOT, A LOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTT) of heat from boxing fans and critics. Pacquiao's getting his share of ducking and dodging and acting su****ious, but Floyd's persecution would be much worse if it were Pacquiao saying, "Take the tests and prove you're clean."

4. Mayweather and his family are obviously impressed with Pacquiao's accomplishments to the point they think he "HAS" to be on something.

It was as Kellerman said after the Pacquiao-Clottey fight. Pacquiao doesn't feel he HAS to take them, and Mayweather seems to be saying, "There's no way that a guy can do that with natural ability."

I don't remember how it was that Kellerman stated it, but it was about the situation. Both have their valid points.

5. Legends like the guy in my av would never ***** out, steroids or not. They had an extreme self belief and would of taken the fight regardless.

I don't care how macho you are, if you want to make the fight safer in an already dangerous sport, by all means do it. Look what happened with Mosley and the BALCO controversy, look at Ward and the su****ions surrounding him, look what happened to Margarito before his fight with Mosley, Billy Collins and his tragic life...

Hell, at this stage, I wouldn't be surprised if years from now we somehow find out Leonard, Hagler, and Duran were juicing.

6. Floyd's offense has diminished greatly in the last 5 years.

It's his career. Not yours. It's his future money on the line. Not yours. The fact of the matter is, Mayweather sells because he's undefeated, he's a trash-talker, and considered a villain of the sport. He CANNOT afford to lose. If he loses, his stock will drop immensely. He doesn't have a crowd-pleasing style and it won't matter if he bounces back (unless he transforms into his former ways back when he was at 135), the public will not care for Mayweather if he loses because they'll be satisfied with having seen him lose once. To them, that puts Mayweather in his place. "That'll shut him up." That's what they'll think. I don't care who you are, if Mayweather loses, his star power will diminish exponentially. He fights cautiously because he has to, especially at this point where everyone is just aching to see him lose.

7. Pacquiao is the star of boxing, not Mayweather, and also #1 P4P. Mayweather should want to beat him.

........Pacquiao is better known than Mayweather. I haven't checked PPV numbers, but I'd be willing to bet Pacquiao eeks it out over Mayweather. Even if he doesn't, with recent streak since David Diaz, Pacquiao's been making it A LOT of noise in the boxing community and gaining an ever-growing fanbase. The guy's out of this world, I'll agree to that.

[FaustoGeraci]

TS what are your thoughts on the link that was posted that completely refutes everything you said about going to the olympics and getting a pamphlet about drug testing? Dont duck me.

First of all the real loser in this thread is anybody that ordered that Hopkins PPV. What a disgrace. Check out the Toney interview at fighthype. Hopkins is shook.

Second of all HGH is traceable within 84 days of usage. EPO is hardly detected, as a matter of fact never has been, and the Olympics do URINE tests throughout the event. Tests in general. But it doesn't matter, because 24 days would of been plenty of time. "Dont duck me" haha are you for real?