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  • Khalid X
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    #181
    Originally posted by Gutz
    Nah..

    Pac legacy is set. Pac can retire today and will be a top ATG, HBO will make a special about him in the future and Nike will continue to sell his shoes..

    While Floyd legacy will always have question marks...
    I wont comment of Mayweathers legacy, but I agree with you on Pac's legacy. This is why these haters hate the way they do. Nothing can take away from what Pac has accomplished in the sport, which is why they cling to these Steroid/PED alegations in an attempt to discredit him.

    Pac legacy has been sealed since his trilogy with Morales.

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      #182
      Originally posted by No Ceilings
      I disagree. Wouldnt you favor Shane over everyone that Pac has ever fought? Including the Post Marg Cotto?

      No you must have limited intelligence because YOU said "Floyd needs Pac". I just made the point that he DOESN'T and you agreed sow which is it?

      When you say this:


      "It's the same as if Tyson never fought Holyfield or Leonard never fought Hagler. The question would always be there as to whether or not he could beat that fighter."

      Doesnt that also apply to Pacquiao? I mean its obvious who the elephant in his room is. Its Floyd Mayweather Jr.
      Originally posted by Calilloyd
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      I think you better revaluate the meaning. The definition of Irony is "an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected." Which would infer that it's somehow surprising that Mayweather is fighting Mosley after the Pacquiao negotiations broke down because of Pacquaio's side refusing the OSDT. If Mosley had refused testing you would have a point. But Mosley, with his history, has accepted testing and here we are with the fight. So please explain where the irony is? If you truly know the definition of that word. And I don't care about their legacys. That has nothing to do with this.
      It's IRONIC that Floyd is fighting a guy who actually tested positive for steroids considering he refused to fight a guy because he SUSPECTED him of doing steroids.

      The fact that Mosley tested for them is irrelevant, the irony is that he's fighting him to begin with........

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        #183
        Originally posted by Gutz
        Great post!!!


        You're so redundant that it's funny

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          #184
          Originally posted by snd_dsigner_dan
          The only problem is that some will ask, "He sure was great but he never fought Mayweather." Everyone wants this fight. Even the people who don't watch boxing want this fight. If Manny loves his fans, he'd give them this fight.

          Goes both ways.. People will say the same thing about Floyd.. But more people will be targeting Floyd for why the fight failed instead of Pac..

          Like I said.. Pac legacy is set.. Floyd has questions marks... and because of those question marks.. people will always target Floyd first why the fight didnt happen...

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            #185
            Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
            I wont comment of Mayweathers legacy, but I agree with you on Pac's legacy. This is why these haters hate the way they do. Nothing can take away from what Pac has accomplished in the sport, which is why they cling to these Steroid/PED alegations in an attempt to discredit him.

            Pac legacy has been sealed since his trilogy with Morales.
            I think his legacy was sealed when he beat Cotto. IMO a prime Morales, JMM and Barerra beat Pacquaio, that's just me....

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              #186
              Originally posted by Calilloyd
              You're so redundant that it's funny


              Glad i can help..

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              • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                #187
                Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
                Come on man, you serious want to do the lawyer thing and argue in circles?

                Pac fought a prime JMM who is better than anyone Floyd has ever fought. Floyd's best on his resume are a past his prime DLH, past his prime Mosley now and Castillo in his prime who he arguably lost the first fight against!
                The first JMM was a draw. Lets not act like he won that fight. The best on Floyds resume is Diego Corralles its not Oscar. Its funny how you bring up Castillo and say Floyd arguably lost yet so conveniently fail to mention that many think Pac lost to JMM the second time.


                Pac has already exceeded his expectations as a fighter, the fact he has beat lagit welters is AMAZING for a guy starting out his career at 106lbs.

                That's Pac's legacy, not NEEDING to fight Mayweather. Pac can retire tomorrow and his legacy is set, that was my point.
                Who cares where he started? Floyd was also a 106 Pounder at the same age Pac was and went up to 154 I dont see him getting praised for that? Right. Pac is a full fledge WW hes proved that dont ya think?

                Where as Floyd's career can be picked apart, starting with why he didn't fight Marg when Marg was this feared fighter. Why he didn't fight Mosley when he was more in his prime, why he hasn't fought Pacquiao?

                These are all lagit questions you fanboys refuse to answer.
                lol this is funny. You should go back in the lounge because you have no idea what you are talking about. Pacs career cant be picked apart? You can pick apart anyones career. I can say Oscar was drained, Cotto was damaged goods, JMM beat him, Hatton was shot and drained and Diaz was a bum. See what I did there?

                Floyd has been calling out Shane his whole career but you knew that right? He didnt fight Pac because Pac didnt accept the blood tests DUH!! Have you been under a rock?

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
                  It's IRONIC that Floyd is fighting a guy who actually tested positive for steroids considering he refused to fight a guy because he SUSPECTED him of doing steroids.

                  The fact that Mosley tested for them is irrelevant, the irony is that he's fighting him to begin with........
                  Way to contradict yourself. He asked Shane to the tests for THAT very reason. Only difference is that Shane agreed and the fight was signed.

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                  • Khalid X
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Have you been to a full training camp? That doesn't require extreme endurance? Please.
                    Honestly if you cant comprehend what I'm talking about, I really don't know what else to tell you. I mean you asked a question, and I answered it accordingly. You asked who would use it and I answered. You asked what was extreme endurance...and I answered.


                    The endurance needed for cycling is above and beyond what is needed for boxing. Endurance plays a bigger factor in those guys winning than in boxing and its not even close. So to compete at the highest level, when your competetion are the most conditioned athletes in the world by far....some guys feel the need to take it to the extreme....which is why EPO use is huge in that sport.


                    The worst conditioned cyclist has endurance that is above and beyond any boxer and it's not even up for debate.

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                    • Khalid X
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                      #190
                      Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
                      I think his legacy was sealed when he beat Cotto. IMO a prime Morales, JMM and Barerra beat Pacquaio, that's just me....
                      Pac beat Barrera and Marquez in there prime, so I don't get what you are saying.

                      To be fair though...if that is your opinion, it's cool....I can respect that.
                      Last edited by Khalid X; 04-06-2010, 02:30 PM.

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