An Unbiased Look At Pacquiao-Mayweather

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  • AC-Voltage
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    #111
    Originally posted by FaustoGeraci
    Much respect my man. I appreciate all the kind words from you and the rest of the boxingscene members. Thanks.

    DazedNConfused...the 84 day window is in regards to HGH. That is the major PED. Blood doping and blood transfusions are not really detectable, unless they monitor the athletes blood levels for a year. As the link YOU provided stated. Two problems. A) Even the winter Olympics in Vancouver weren't up to snuff on that yet. B)Only Mayweather feels that all of this testing is needed. Not any other pro boxer, and not any state athletic commission which actually SANCTIONS the fights. So Pacquiao's blood levels would not be monitored for a year, thus making that point meaningless, thus making the refusal to fight Pacquiao over 10 days (24 day cut off date to 14) ridiculous. Thanks.
    This is regarding HGH.. Why would any boxer take HGH?

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    • AC-Voltage
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      #112
      Originally posted by FaustoGeraci
      Maybe you should read the post above to further educate yourself instead of catching feelings like a little *****.
      Please provide a link, or photo of your pamphlet where it says they cut off testing 30 days before an event... Show me please. Until then it's an opinion.

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      • Khalid X
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        #113
        Originally posted by AC-Voltage
        The logic to green k someone for lieing doesnt sit well with me.

        There is no limit to where testing can be done. This mysterious 30 day limit from a mysterious pamphlet.

        There are ways to speed up clearing your system for testing. Yet he says there isn't..
        So are suppose to be the green K police....stopping any unfair green K'ing on Boxingscene?

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        • V.WEBB
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          #114
          Originally posted by FaustoGeraci
          Much respect my man. I appreciate all the kind words from you and the rest of the boxingscene members. Thanks.

          DazedNConfused...the 84 day window is in regards to HGH. That is the major PED. Blood doping and blood transfusions are not really detectable, unless they monitor the athletes blood levels for a year. As the link YOU provided stated. Two problems. A) Even the winter Olympics in Vancouver weren't up to snuff on that yet. B)Only Mayweather feels that all of this testing is needed. Not any other pro boxer, and not any state athletic commission which actually SANCTIONS the fights. So Pacquiao's blood levels would not be monitored for a year, thus making that point meaningless, thus making the refusal to fight Pacquiao over 10 days (24 day cut off date to 14) ridiculous. Thanks.
          You heard of Sauderland and Arthur Abraham?

          Last edited by V.WEBB; 04-06-2010, 01:52 PM.

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          • IMDAZED
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            #115
            Originally posted by FaustoGeraci
            DazedNConfused...the 84 day window is in regards to HGH. That is the major PED. Blood doping and blood transfusions are not really detectable, unless they monitor the athletes blood levels for a year. As the link YOU provided stated. Two problems. A) Even the winter Olympics in Vancouver weren't up to snuff on that yet. B)Only Mayweather feels that all of this testing is needed. Not any other pro boxer, and not any state athletic commission which actually SANCTIONS the fights. So Pacquiao's blood levels would not be monitored for a year, thus making that point meaningless, thug making the refusal to fight Pacquiao over 10 days (24 day cut off date to 14) ridiculous. Thanks.
            1. Explain the 84 day window regarding HGH

            2. Blood doping and blood transfusions are detectable even within several weeks, although the optimum method is for a year. This is irrelevant, however, as both Mayweather and Mosley will be subject to testing for a year. So would have Pac if he had...agreed.

            3. Not in time for Vancouver? Just in time for the fight.

            4. Not only Mayweather feels this testing is needed.

            5. You're welcome.

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            • FaustoGeraci
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              #116
              Originally posted by AC-Voltage
              This is regarding HGH.. Why would any boxer take HGH?
              Are you really that clueless? What steroid do you feel a boxer would take then? Do you even know what HGH is? My goodness.

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              • Khalid X
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                #117
                Originally posted by AC-Voltage
                This is regarding HGH.. Why would any boxer take HGH?
                Why would any boxer take EPO? I have asked the same thing you and them some...yet I have never got a logically answer. Truth is you can you an altitude stimulater (Chambers and Ward use) or run in the mountains and get the same exact effects of EPO use.

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                • FaustoGeraci
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
                  You heard of Saunderland and Arthur Abraham?

                  You mean Wilfried Sauerland and Arthur Abraham? I never heard their opinion on the matter, no.

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                    Why would any boxer take EPO? I have asked the same thing you and them some...yet I have never got a logically answer. Truth is you can you an altitude stimulater (Chambers and Ward use) or run in the mountains and get the same exact effects of EPO use.
                    Why would any boxer take any steroid? Why do cyclists use EPO? Why do they blood dope at all?

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                    • FaustoGeraci
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                      Why would any boxer take EPO? I have asked the same thing you and them some...yet I have never got a logically answer. Truth is you can you an altitude stimulater (Chambers and Ward use) or run in the mountains and get the same exact effects of EPO use.
                      Sleep in a hyperbaric chamber or whatever it's called as well. Yup.

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