Beating Ruiz @ Heavyweight was Roy's GREATEST feat, IMO

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  • Siggy
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    #11
    i'd say james toney, but even that was a bit tainted by toney having to melt himself to make weight.

    after that, i'd say the eric harding win was his 2nd best accomplishment.

    i mean its great that he beat a heavy, but ruiz was one of the worst heavyweight champs ever.

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    • THE REED
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      #12
      I think the fact that nobody has done it in over 100 years speaks volumes...

      I think him moving back down from heavyweight to lightheavyweight and beating Tarver AFTER the HW win... is almost just as great, and it completed his quest to match what Bob Fitzsimmons did.

      Fitzsimmons wasn't just the only MW to goto HW, but also to drop back down to LHW and recapture that title.

      Roy did it.

      That's why when Bernard talks about it, just getting the HW strap isn't the whole quest.

      The other two guys that did it, dropped back down to regain the LHW title.

      WHich is JUST as difficult.

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      • V.WEBB
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        #13
        Originally posted by reedickyaluss
        I think the fact that nobody has done it in over 100 years speaks volumes...

        I think him moving back down from heavyweight to lightheavyweight and beating Tarver AFTER the HW win... is almost just as great, and it completed his quest to match what Bob Fitzsimmons did.

        Fitzsimmons wasn't just the only MW to goto HW, but also to drop back down to LHW and recapture that title.

        Roy did it.

        That's why when Bernard talks about it, just getting the HW strap isn't the whole quest.

        The other two guys that did it, dropped back down to regain the LHW title.

        WHich is JUST as difficult.
        Good post Reed.

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        • boxaholic
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          #14
          His greatest win but it also messed him up for good. He was never the same after that great win.

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          • Quarry
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            #15
            yes you are most proberbly correct he was the only guy in over 100yrs to achieve that feat

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            • Pullcounter
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              #16
              Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
              What do you all think?
              meh... ruiz was just a titleholder. I think his dominance over lt HW for many years was better feat.

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              • SplitSecond
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                #17
                his great feat wasn't beating ruiz, it was moving from junior middleweight-heavyweight undefeated

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                • V.WEBB
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by tehMatrix
                  his great feat wasn't beating ruiz, it was moving from junior middleweight-heavyweight undefeated
                  good post. that can't be overlooked.

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                  • Kilrain
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Second on my list to the win over Toney. But still incredible.

                    Moving up three divisions, then skipping a fourth to go to heavyweight, and STILL being outweighed by 26lbs! Christ, that was a great performance.
                    That was a great win on paper but I don't think it was that huge in hindsight.

                    James was extremely weight-drained for the fight and clearly had no energy in the ring that night. He lost something like 50 lbs during training camp. Roy's performance was masterful but Toney was a shell. Immediately after the Williams fight James started eating and was in the worst possible shape come November 18. I think Roy's style was always going to give Toney trouble, but I think the weight beat JT as much as Roy did

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                    • -Spinal-
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                      #20
                      He went up to HW from MW and clearly beat a HW Champion. He dominated Ruiz, something that has only been done just a few times by other Top HW's..Jones was not a top HW, he was a LHW coming up in weight. That was his biggest win if you put everything in perspective, not just the opponent.

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