why reuropean whites beter boxers than american whites?

[MexicanMauler]

White Americans generally do sports for fun, while others do it because thats all they have to make a living.

This right here.

[jrosales13]

im just saying pavlik has only one loss to a much bigger; and fresher than in his last fight hopkins. imo pavlik in the super six equals:

stops froch
beats dirrell around the ring
beats up kessler the whole night
taylor...
ward-ward takes this fight but never hurts kelly
abraham-amazing fight that i would give to pavlik based on equal power but better boxer in pavlik. abraham got schooled by dirrell.

I disagree especially at 168. Not only did Hopkins dominate him at 170. But, even Jermain Taylor was competitive with him at 166. Pavlik look slow and lethargic against Taylor and that was at 166.

I can tell by those two fights that Pavlik is not the same above 160. And, IMO Pavlik has also been ruined by Hopkins.

Pavlik chin is not granite either. And, AA has true power. AA chin is also a little better than Pavlik at 168 and I think AA power is also better than Pavlik at 168. And, Pavlik really be in front of AA and he will eat some shots and get KO'd. Pavlik style does not give AA problems.

Dirrell and Ward could beat Pavlik if both stay off the ropes and keeps it in the middle of the ring. If they can do that they can pitch a shotout against Pavlik

Pavlik would have a good chance against Kessler and Froch. That is as far as I will go with that one.

[sammiza567]

Pavlik would have a good chance against Kessler and Froch. That is as far as I will go with that one.

its all good bro you certainly sound like you know your boxing good friendly debate.

[Holtol]

There used to be more white boxers in the USA. I think its just there are to many middle class white Americans now. That want to do something easier then boxing if they are going to be a pro athlete.

[paulf]

There used to be more white boxers in the USA. I think its just there are to many middle class white Americans now. That want to do something easier then boxing if they are going to be a pro athlete.

Yeah, boxing is a severely working class sport.

There are still plenty of working class americans, but as I said before they're all off on that UFC bull****...

[Holtol]

Yeah, boxing is a severely working class sport.

There are still plenty of working class americans, but as I said before they're all off on that UFC bull****...

Anyone who comes from a tough background is going to do better at combat. Blacks could take over the UFC if it gets big enough.

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They're doing MMA now.