Roy BLEW IT. He could have won the fight

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  • RayLeonard82
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    Roy BLEW IT. He could have won the fight

    Roy is not the fighter he once was but what i was looking for is if he still had that distance speed. Meaning being able to land shots from distance weather it was the lunging upercut or the straight right hand from 5 feet away.

    The upercut from distance is no longer quick enough to hit the target against elite fighters, but Roy's straight right hand which sets up his combos is still there and i thought that was the quickest he had looked from distance then he has looked in years last night when he did that. There were 3 or 4 occassions where Roy was like 8 feet away from Hopkins and connected with the sraight right from distance and it set up his other pot shots which was like 8th or 9th round. He was building up a little confidence and rythym.

    Here's my point. When Roy sits down and watches this fight he's going to think to himself Hopkins was more shot and slowing down more that he might have originally thought. Roy blew this fight because he is afraid of what might come back if he misses just like Ray Leonard said when he was older, but i dont think Hopkins is quick enough to make Roy pay with a big shot when Roy attempts that straight right. Everytime Roy fented and unleashed the straight right it landed and put him in position for other punches. The problem was he didnt do it often enough.

    Hopkins was prepared for Roy's upercut, but not the straight right hand which Roy could have landed from round 1 and would have set up his other shots. Hold Hopkins when Bernard gets him on the ropes, circle off the ropes to get it back to the middle of the ring, fent and straight right hand which would set up everything else. It was there for Roy but just like Tarver 3 he was afraid to pull the trigger.
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    #2
    Originally posted by RayLeonard82
    Roy is not the fighter he once was but what i was looking for is if he still had that distance speed. Meaning being able to land shots from distance weather it was the lunging upercut or the straight right hand from 5 feet away.

    The upercut from distance is no longer quick enough to hit the target against elite fighters, but Roy's straight right hand which sets up his combos is still there and i thought that was the quickest he had looked from distance then he has looked in years last night when he did that. There were 3 or 4 occassions where Roy was like 8 feet away from Hopkins and connected with the sraight right from distance and it set up his other pot shots which was like 8th or 9th round. He was building up a little confidence and rythym.

    Here's my point. When Roy sits down and watches this fight he's going to think to himself Hopkins was more shot and slowing down more that he might have originally thought. Roy blew this fight because he is afraid of what might come back if he misses just like Ray Leonard said when he was older, but i dont think Hopkins is quick enough to make Roy pay with a big shot when Roy attempts that straight right. Everytime Roy fented and unleashed the straight right it landed and put him in position for other punches. The problem was he didnt do it often enough.

    Hopkins was prepared for Roy's upercut, but not the straight right hand which Roy could have landed from round 1 and would have set up his other shots. Hold Hopkins when Bernard gets him on the ropes, circle off the ropes to get it back to the middle of the ring, fent and straight right hand which would set up everything else. It was there for Roy but just like Tarver 3 he was afraid to pull the trigger.
    Sorry, but that is all I needed to read....

    What tipped you off? Was it the first round KO in december?

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    • IIG
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      Roy just didn't do enough, but in no way was he beat up or embarrassed by Hopkins. Roy did have some success with the straight right, and the few left hooks he threw seemed quick and plenty powerful. Hopkins caught a hard one when he rushed Roy after the rabbit punch, and that was the end of his machismo for the rest of that fight. Hopkins looked just as old as Jones to me. He damn sure ain't the #4 P4P fighter in the sport.

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      • HandSpeed303
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        Originally posted by IIG
        Roy just didn't do enough, but in no way was he beat up or embarrassed by Hopkins. Roy did have some success with the straight right, and the few left hooks he threw seemed quick and plenty powerful. Hopkins caught a hard one when he rushed Roy after the rabbit punch, and that was the end of his machismo for the rest of that fight. Hopkins looked just as old as Jones to me. He damn sure ain't the #4 P4P fighter in the sport.
        This fight never should have happened. Period.

        I said that once before, and most posters came after me like I didn't know anything.

        I have not even gloated today...Not once!

        Glad folks now see this fight for the joke it was. I don't care about their names, both are far past it. Fight never should have happened.

        Like I said before, Hop should have fought Green.

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        • etlux
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          #5
          Originally posted by HandSpeed303
          Sorry, but that is all I needed to read....

          What tipped you off? Was it the first round KO in december?
          ahahahahahah

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            #6
            Originally posted by HandSpeed303
            Sorry, but that is all I needed to read....

            What tipped you off? Was it the first round KO in december?
            Co-sign...

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            • RayLeonard82
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              I agree the fight never should have happened but when Roy watches the replay he will see Hopkins was slower and past it more than he originally thought.

              Can't compare December against Danny Green to Hopkins because there two different styles. Green stalks and stalks and looks for that 1 punch KO and is bigger than Hopkins. Bernard fights at this slow pace that gives Roy opportunities to open up which he didnt.

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              • djtmal
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                #8
                the mind may be willing, but the body just ain't able

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by RayLeonard82
                  Roy is not the fighter he once was but what i was looking for is if he still had that distance speed. Meaning being able to land shots from distance weather it was the lunging upercut or the straight right hand from 5 feet away.

                  The upercut from distance is no longer quick enough to hit the target against elite fighters, but Roy's straight right hand which sets up his combos is still there and i thought that was the quickest he had looked from distance then he has looked in years last night when he did that. There were 3 or 4 occassions where Roy was like 8 feet away from Hopkins and connected with the sraight right from distance and it set up his other pot shots which was like 8th or 9th round. He was building up a little confidence and rythym.

                  Here's my point. When Roy sits down and watches this fight he's going to think to himself Hopkins was more shot and slowing down more that he might have originally thought. Roy blew this fight because he is afraid of what might come back if he misses just like Ray Leonard said when he was older, but i dont think Hopkins is quick enough to make Roy pay with a big shot when Roy attempts that straight right. Everytime Roy fented and unleashed the straight right it landed and put him in position for other punches. The problem was he didnt do it often enough.

                  Hopkins was prepared for Roy's upercut, but not the straight right hand which Roy could have landed from round 1 and would have set up his other shots. Hold Hopkins when Bernard gets him on the ropes, circle off the ropes to get it back to the middle of the ring, fent and straight right hand which would set up everything else. It was there for Roy but just like Tarver 3 he was afraid to pull the trigger.
                  Good post, I agree, he was scared of being countered plus was kinda discouraged with the headbutts Hopkins gave him the whole night, I was a bit disappointed of Weeks because he didn't say anything to Bernard.

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                  • jump-man
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                    #10
                    Roy could had won the fight but he was to gun shy, he was scared to open up... thats what happens when uve been knocked out 3 times...

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