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Muhammad Ali or Wladimir Klitschko - Who Is The More Exciting Heavyweight?
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Wlad beats none of Ali's major opponents. Sonny, Joe, George, Kenny and Larry would all f*** Wlad up. Other's like Chuvato etc would be tough for him too.
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Originally posted by capt_sam View PostThis post is worthy of ridicule. For one, you cant eliminate Ali's KOs as in his era (and until 2003) HW meant 190+ lbs. The goal posts have only just been moved, not Ali's doing-else you have to say men like Rocky were cruiserweights and discount them as HW.
And OF COURSE Louis vs Schmeling (192 lbs vs 198 lbs) is nothing but a cruiserweight fight.
They just didn't call it cruiser then. But 190lbs is 190lbs now and then. No matter how you call it.
Originally posted by capt_sam View PostThe Foreman/Frazier/Ali argument you are attempting is nonsense.
I also want to remind every CLAYton of the following BIZARRE attitude:
Wlad wins -> Wlad beat a bum
Clay wins -> Clay is teh greatess.
Wlad loses -> Wlad is a bum
Clay loses -> Wow, Clay's opponent was strooong
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Originally posted by HitmanHattonAY View Postif you compare Ali's opponents to Klitschos, you will get a shock
Ali fought the best out there and they were better than competition now !!
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...58#post5440358
Ali fought the best fighters available in the 70ies (cruisers, former cruisers, dwarfs, handicaps...)
Wlad wouldn't even be allowed to face such a crappy opposition like Ali. There are only a few mentionables: Ken Norton, Foreman, Lyle.Other opponents (like handicapped Frazier) wouldn't be allowed in the ring or would be the proof of how the division sucks.
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Originally posted by knn View PostOF COURSE Marciano is nothing but a cruiserweight.
And OF COURSE Louis vs Schmeling (192 lbs vs 198 lbs) is nothing but a cruiserweight fight.
They just didn't call it cruiser then. But 190lbs is 190lbs now and then. No matter how you call it.
Can you imagine the OUTCRY if Wlad would fight a HALFBLIND featherfist like Frazier? It would be the ultimate proof of "how the division sucks". Yet in the world of CLAYtons Frazier vs Ali is ALWAYS the proof of Ali's greatness.
I also want to remind every CLAYton of the following BIZARRE attitude:
Wlad wins -> Wlad beat a bum
Clay wins -> Clay is teh greatess.
Wlad loses -> Wlad is a bum
Clay loses -> Wow, Clay's opponent was strooong
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This is disrespectful and hilarious.
Alis fights with Frazier, Foreman, ect are some of the biggest and most important moments in boxing history. When Ali fought the world's eyes were on him.
Wlads last fight didn't even get televised outside Europe.
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Originally posted by knn View PostYou are at step #3
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...58#post5440358
Ali fought the best fighters available in the 70ies (cruisers, former cruisers, dwarfs, handicaps...)
Wlad wouldn't even be allowed to face such a crappy opposition like Ali. There are only a few mentionables: Ken Norton, Foreman, Lyle.Other opponents (like handicapped Frazier) wouldn't be allowed in the ring or would be the proof of how the division sucks.
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