Vitali is a joke of a champion

[jack_the_rippuh]

I can't stand that ****in' "punk from Germany" as Toney calls him (even though he's not German).

Wlad is Vitali's sacrificial lamb..

[hollister]

I think he should fight Rahman because he said he would, period.
I admit, his opponents haven't been in the best shape, but Larry Holmes fought a flabby, 38 yr. old Ali with Parkinson's, and cried after the fight because the "victory" meant so much to him. He actually claimed that as a victory, like he beat a prime Ali or something...at least VK keeps his mouth shut most of the time.

[Torino]

Ivan Drago from Rock IV

HAHAHAHAHAHHHAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't even get the insult right!

[fight fan]

Some are getting a little hard on Vitali!!!! He fights as often as Tyson ever did (probably more often). Lennox Lewis didn't exactly fight more than once or twice a year! Vitali has done everything that was expected of him! He took a fight with Lewis on extremely short notice and the fact that Lewis was supposedly out of shape is his own fault and a disgrace considering he was supposed to be defending his title so he should have been training hard for Johnson! Vitali gave Lewis hell and only lost due to a bad cut over his eye! Lewis retired rather than having to face Vitali again (as we all know!!!) so Vitali and Johnson fought for Lewis' title. Vitali beat Johnson as nobody else was able to, by KO 2! Vitali then went on to handily defeat the man that KOed an invincible looking Wlad Klitschko, Corrie Sanders and he beat him up pretty good showing again (like in the Lewis fight) his heart and chin by overcoming a scary 1st round attack by Sanders who is one of the hardest hitters in the division. The only reason he fought Williams is due to his KO of Tyson which because of who Tyson is/was made that KO impressive. That is no different than many of the recent champions questionable defenses. Vitali seems to be under that microscope even if he sneezes wrong. He is injury prone which is the only reason some of his fights haven't come off as scheduled! Of the current champions, Byrd beat Vitali on a technicality (Vitali tore his shoulder) otherwise Vitali was pummeling Byrd and would do it again! Ruiz would have no chance against Vitali with that hugging style and Brewster who is tough and strong, doesn't have the skills to beat Vitali. Rahman isn't going anywhere, he and Vitali will meet if he gets by Barrett that is.

[kadyo's]

Ruiz is no joke, right?

[Torino]

Nothing wrong with Vitali or his opponents. Non of them were fat, old or whatever. It's just the Anti-Klitschko's trying to discredit the brothers.

For example, the same can be done with Lennox Lewis.

He fought,

2003-06-21 Vitali Klitschko - Awkward and never fought anyone.

2002-06-08 Mike Tyson - Old and lost his skill long ago

2001-11-17 Hasim Rahman - No skill

2001-04-22 Hasim Rahman - Exposed Lewis's weak chin with one lucky punch.

2000-11-11 David Tua 245 - Short/ one dimensional fighter.

2000-07-15 Francois Botha - Out of Shape

2000-04-29 Michael Grant - Glass jaw

1999-11-13 Evander Holyfield - Old Man. Way past his prime. Lewis better off beating up someone from the old folks home.

1999-03-13 Evander Holyfield - See Above

1998-09-26 Zeljko Mavrovic - Who's the little guy?

1998-03-28 Shannon Briggs - No skill

1997-10-04 Andrew Golota - No skill

1997-07-12 Henry Akinwande - Bias Ref

1997-02-07 241 Oliver McCall - Paid Off/ didn't want to fight.

1996-05-10 Ray Mercer - Out of shape/Past his Prime.

1995-10-07 Tommy Morrison - A fictional movie boxer

1995-07-02 Justin Fortune - Who's this little guy?

1995-05-13 Lionel Butler - This guy lost to everyone

It could be said Lewis was in a weak division also and there was something wrong with everyone he fought as well.

Oh and Lewis averaged two fights per year since 1995 and only fought once a year from 2001-2004.

Nothing Wrong with Vitali and I'm sure he will fight whoever the WBC wants him to, Rahman or Brewster.

[Hurlex]

NO doubt-Lewis fought in one of the worst eras of boxing,filled with man past their primes and old use to be good men. Lewis wouldnt have made it in other era's (7o's-80's) like this one he fought in. Vitali isnt great either but he is respectful and is admired. He doesnt talk **** and wins fights by UD,Steriod or substance inhancers or claim he is the best. He goes out there trying to prove himself and get the KO and doesnt ever lose his cool. True it is bull that he hasnt fought but i think that will cahnge and we will see more of him in the future. But serioulst with who would he fight,no one gives him any credit against anyone he fights and Don King wont let his boxers off their leash so whats the point. We are living through one of the worst era's of boxing people..LIVE With it. VK isnt a skilled figher but it a fighter with pride that doesnt cheat or talk ****,so i dont see why this hate liek he's ducking somone.

ps:F**king ducking Rahman..i am not a Vk Fan but come on...Rahman..Ruiz's ***** Rahman..hahahaha.

[Riptor]

Hey noted It is not Vitali's fault that the division is full of bums Now. If Ike Ibeabuchi were still around then none of these saps would be champions. It is shameful that a former middleweight champ is in there beating people and trying to clean out the division. (Actually two former middleweights if you count byrd)
However what everyone is getting at is if you are so talented and can beat Rahman why try to get out of that fight and fight Brewster immediately..(Admittedly the Brewster fight will get him another title and is a better fight from an economic standpoint. however he will loose his title if he fights Rahman. Why not just beat Rahman and then fight Brewster? Also he said he would Fight Rahman why change now. Also beyond that if he kills him out and then beats brewster all critics will have to be silenced and he will not have many fights out there left before he can retire and officially say he fought everyone and cleaned out the division. Besides by beating Rahman he would be eliminating Rahman for good and Rahman would probably wind up retiring thus getting rid of one more person.


and Hurlex Vitali is not the best sport around. Did you see his behavour after Corrie sanders loosened Wladimirs Jaw (Damn watching that fight I am like wow Sanders left hooks were like lasers homing in on Wladimirs jaw.. dammnn!! But anyway after the fight Vitali jumped in the ring and got all in Sanders face and damn near started a second bout right there you call that sportsmanship? maybe I missed something but otherwise, he seemingly has been a respectful guy you know?

[Stickman]

So, another "Klitchko is a bum, and would be nothing without his 6'8" frame" thread, on yet another boxing forum.

Lots of big guys were cream puffs in the history of boxing. What makes Klitchko fairly special, is that he knows very well (maybe as good as any boxer in history) how to utilize his size, he has phenomenal reflexes for his size, an outstanding work ethic both in and out of the ring, and superb ring smarts. No, he's not classically "pretty" to watch in the ring like Ali or Frazier, but who the hell cares? He's highly effective, regardless. He's also very businesslike during a fight and a good sportsman. All great stuff for me, when I'm watching a heavyweight match.

And these days, many heavyweights (and even many fighters in lower weight classes) take long breaks between fights. Not to mention the fact that he actually had surgery recently. Some fighters are off for well over a year after surgery (Tszyu, for example).

All this "Klitchko sucks as champ" stuff is starting to grow mold and smell like sour g****s. So what's the real reason some of you guys don't think much of Klitchko? Your favorite current heavy doesn't stand a chance against him, so you automatically classify him as a bum? Come on fellas, be honest with yourselves (and the rest of the folk that read this forum, and others) and tell the real reason you hate "Lurch".

Personally, I like most heavyweights these days, with the exception of Ruiz and Toney. Peter gets on my nerves a little too, I suppose, but only because of his arrogance....which will get smacked out of him when he steps into the ring with a top 10 heavyweight. After that, I think he'll either shape up and become a better fighter for losing, or ship out (retire at age 25).

Anyway, spill it, fellas. What's the real reason you don't like Klitchko? All truthful answers welcome.

P.S.
I didn't ask this because I want to start a flame war. I asked it to get some of you fellas to actually step back and think about your reasoning for a moment and consider whether it's founded in emotion, or in fact.

P.P.S.
Klitchko/Lewis was about as good a heavyweight bout as I've seen in several years. Win or lose, if he puts on a show like that for me to watch without having to pay $50 for it, I'm A-****ing-OK with that.

[Stickman]

Also wanted to add....I've begun to feel like the WBC title is **** anyway...in fact, all the "titles" are, and I don't care who holds them anymore. All I really care about these days is seeing the top guys take each other on competetively, with lots of action, as often as possible. Screw the titles. Let the ****wits who run the organizations collect their sanctioning fees from the **** in the otherwise empty arenas for all I care.