Official Muhammad Ali Appreciation Thread.

[MARKBNLV]

Joe Frazier did.

[T-97]

Joe Frazier did.

That wasn't Prime Ali man... everyone knows he was different after that time away from boxing. However, I do agree that Sugar Ray Robinson is the Greatest P4P, Ali is easily the Greatest Heavyweight of all time in my eyes.

[SN!PER]

[The_Demon]

the best HW ever,he had it all,incredible

[MARKBNLV]

That wasn't Prime Ali man... everyone knows he was different after that time away from boxing. However, I do agree that Sugar Ray Robinson is the Greatest P4P, Ali is easily the Greatest Heavyweight of all time in my eyes.

Ali was not past it when he cam back he beat every who who in the division including beating Foreman after that Frazier loss.

[knn]

That wasn't Prime Ali man... everyone knows he was different after that time away from boxing. However, I do agree that Sugar Ray Robinson is the Greatest P4P, Ali is easily the Greatest Heavyweight of all time in my eyes.

Ali boxed also in lower divisions (e.g. won Olympic gold in the sub-cruiser division).

As a heavyweight (both opponents 200+) he has a record of 28-4.
All his remaining 29 fights were against cruisers (= below 200) or him being a cruiser himself.

Ali is one of the best p4p.

[knn]

That wasn't Prime Ali man... everyone knows he was different after that time away from boxing.

What was prime Ali then?
You can't be serious that Ali's greatest wins are BEFORE his boxing break.

[T-97]

Ali was not past it when he cam back he beat every who who in the division including beating Foreman after that Frazier loss.

I wouldn't say he was past it as such, he was still a very good fighter. However, it was clear to see a difference between the Ali pre and post lay off if I remember correctly. I haven't watched the fights for a while, but if memory serves me correctly - after the lay off, Ali wasn't as mobile, and his speed and reflexes diminished somewhat (although, not much).

[MARKBNLV]

I wouldn't say he was past it as such, he was still a very good fighter. However, it was clear to see a difference between the Ali pre and post lay off if I remember correctly. I haven't watched the fights for a while, but if memory serves me correctly - after the lay off, Ali wasn't as mobile, and his speed and reflexes diminished somewhat (although, not much).

From what i could tell he just got better,he was not mentally fragile like tyson was.

[knn]

I wouldn't say he was past it as such, he was still a very good fighter. However, it was clear to see a difference between the Ali pre and post lay off if I remember correctly. I haven't watched the fights for a while, but if memory serves me correctly - after the lay off, Ali wasn't as mobile

Sure, he got fatter and fatter. Before boxing break: median weight 199. After boxing break: median weight 220. Watch his fights.

Tyson before break: 217, after: 223. Hardly a difference.