Do the American Super Six boxers need crooked home referees to win?

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  • The Hammer
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    Do the American Super Six boxers need crooked home referees to win?

    In the Super Six contract, it states the referees should be from neutral countries.

    However, for Ward-Kessler and Dirrell-Abraham, the refs have been from the US (in the case of Jack Reiss, from Ward's home town of Oakland).

    Last night's referee Laurence Cole has been suspended in the past for favoring the home fighter.

    A referee can change the momentum of a fight and frustrate a fighter, for example by stopping the action when one fighter has another pinned against the ropes, or by not counting a legit knockdown. Cole did both last night.

    Both Cole and Reiss allowed the home fighter to foul (headbutt, low blow) without even a warning.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm fully aware that refs in all countries can be biased and sometimes even crooked. In the Bakhtov-Kretschmann fight yesterday, the German ref did all he could to help Kretschmann win.

    But why do the American boxers in the Super Six need help from home referees? Why couldn't they abide by the terms of the Super Six contract? Froch didn't have a UK ref, and Abraham didn't have a German ref in their opening fights.
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    #2
    by crooked home referees do you mean superior skill?

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    • B.U.R.N.E.R
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      #3
      Tunney cmon man. Give it a rest stop being a poor sport.

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      • The Great Shark
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        #4
        By crooked referees do you mean Euro bum fighters?

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        • Flawless Loc
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          #5
          By crooked home referees do you mean superior athleticism and skills?

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            #6
            Originally posted by Carnivore
            In the Super Six contract, it states the referees should be from neutral countries.

            However, for Ward-Kessler and Dirrell-Abraham, the refs have been from the US (in the case of Jack Reiss, from Ward's home town of Oakland).

            Last night's referee Laurence Cole has been suspended in the past for favoring the home fighter.

            A referee can change the momentum of a fight and frustrate a fighter, for example by stopping the action when one fighter has another pinned against the ropes, or by not counting a legit knockdown. Cole did both last night.

            Both Cole and Reiss allowed the home fighter to foul (headbutt, low blow) without even a warning.

            Don't get me wrong, I'm fully aware that refs in all countries can be biased and sometimes even crooked. In the Bakhtov-Kretschmann fight yesterday, the German ref did all he could to help Kretschmann win.

            But why do the American boxers in the Super Six need help from home referees? Why couldn't they abide by the terms of the Super Six contract? Froch didn't have a UK ref, and Abraham didn't have a German ref in their opening fights.
            That's just the thing. When I watch the fights I don't see two fighters (Ward, Dirrell) being fighters in need of a hometown ref. They handle their buisness fighting world class. Yet here you are with hometown referee's being so obviously biased even when they aren't needed they ruin the experience of the super six.

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            • GREEN GIANT
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              #7
              They dont but they have had two american referees in their two matches which is quite disgraceful.

              IMO they are tainting their own wins becuase they dont need the dodgy refs.

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              • Dirt
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                #8
                i dont really agree with the OP but you gotta admit Laurence Cole is a POS referee.

                I think the Super Six is losing its credibility

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Carnivore
                  In the Super Six contract, it states the referees should be from neutral countries.

                  However, for Ward-Kessler and Dirrell-Abraham, the refs have been from the US (in the case of Jack Reiss, from Ward's home town of Oakland).

                  Last night's referee Laurence Cole has been suspended in the past for favoring the home fighter.

                  A referee can change the momentum of a fight and frustrate a fighter, for example by stopping the action when one fighter has another pinned against the ropes, or by not counting a legit knockdown. Cole did both last night.

                  Both Cole and Reiss allowed the home fighter to foul (headbutt, low blow) without even a warning.

                  Don't get me wrong, I'm fully aware that refs in all countries can be biased and sometimes even crooked. In the Bakhtov-Kretschmann fight yesterday, the German ref did all he could to help Kretschmann win.

                  But why do the American boxers in the Super Six need help from home referees? Why couldn't they abide by the terms of the Super Six contract? Froch didn't have a UK ref, and Abraham didn't have a German ref in their opening fights.
                  yes they do...

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                  • DC Fight Fan
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                    #10
                    Your rants on this are getting old Carnivore. I usually think you are a fairly descent poster but you are going too far on this one.


                    Cole is too dumb to be a bias ref. He has always ****** no matter if it was Texan vs Texan, USA vs USA or any other combination.

                    With that said he ****** both ways last night but that dies not change the fact that:

                    1. Abraham's inactivity cost him many rounds.
                    2. Dirrell outboxed Abraham
                    3. Abraham illegally punched Dirrell causing him to not be able to continue thus getting Abraham DQ'd by the letter of the rule.

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