Manny Pacquiao did 250K PPV buys vs. David Diaz

[Sweet Jesus]

you really are ******

look at the record PPV numbers and see what weights they are

/your idiocy

and again are you really comparing post DLH Mayweather with pre DLH Manny?

really?

Eaner honey, relax.

I gave you pre-DLH numbers. Pac did 1.06M vs. the biggest Mexican superstar since JCC, Erik Morales. How many PPVs did Baldomir have before Mayweather? How many PPVs did Judah have before Mayweather? How many PPVs did Mayweather have before Gatti?

He did more vs. those 3 guys than Pac did vs. a superstar.

Case closed buddy. Weight doesn't mean ****.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

bingo

and its about respecting the biggest names in boxing period

**** man we got some ****** people on here of late

Yeah I dont think anyone can say Pac isnt a big draw.

[jrosales13]

That's because no one cares about the lower weight fighters, so they have no name value.

You're telling me if Manny went down to 135 and fought Marquez again, it wouldn't do between 750K-1M buys? Yes it would, because Manny and JMM are names. The weight doesn't mean ****. But keep using it as an excuse if it fits your argument.

Exactly they don't care about the lower weights. So that should tell you is harder to sell fights there bro.

[Sweet Jesus]

bingo

and its about respecting the biggest names in boxing period

**** man we got some ****** people on here of late

I think you have a tick in your brain. Please find the post where I said Manny Pacquiao wasn't a draw homey. I would love to see you produce. My thread is in response to Dan "Pedophile" Rafael's bull**** article comparing the Clottey PPV sales to the Judah and Baldo PPV sales. Pac is not, and will never be, a bigger draw than Mayweather in America.

[Jamel H]

Yeah I dont think anyone can say Pac isnt a big draw.

They're BOTH big draws point blank and fight between both might see 3 million buys honestly

[Sweet Jesus]

Exactly they don't care about the lower weights. So that should tell you is harder to sell fights there bro.

UNLESS THEY HAVE A NAME. Manny Pacquiao is a name. Erik Morales is a name. MAB is a name. Hozumi Hasegawa is not a name. Fernando Montiel is not a name. You get it?

[Eaner0919]

That's because no one cares about the lower weight fighters, so they have no name value.

You're telling me if Manny went down to 135 and fought Marquez again, it wouldn't do between 750K-1M buys? Yes it would, because Manny and JMM are names. The weight doesn't mean ****. But keep using it as an excuse if it fits your argument.

http://www.forbes.com/2008/11/24/box...er=yahoosports

so how many fights below 147 are on there?

[Sweet Jesus]

http://www.forbes.com/2008/11/24/box...er=yahoosports

so how many fights below 147 are on there?

Cool beans. Who's more known, Erik Morales or Carlos Baldomir? Who's more known Marco Antonio Barrera or Zab Judah?

I'll wait for the answer.

[jrosales13]

UNLESS THEY HAVE A NAME. Manny Pacquiao is a name. Erik Morales is a name. MAB is a name. Hozumi Hasegawa is not a name. Fernando Montiel is not a name. You get it?

Not even a name to you get big PPV numbers in the lower weight bro. Casual fans don't care or try to watch the lower weights. There is reason why historically PPV fights at the lower weight even with big never broke 500k. I think Pac-JMM biggest PPV fight below 130 or below. Nobody pays attention to the lower wieghts. Even with names.

[Eaner0919]

Eaner honey, relax.

I gave you pre-DLH numbers. Pac did 1.06M vs. the biggest Mexican superstar since JCC, Erik Morales. How many PPVs did Baldomir have before Mayweather? How many PPVs did Judah have before Mayweather? How many PPVs did Mayweather have before Gatti?

He did more vs. those 3 guys than Pac did vs. a superstar.

Case closed buddy. Weight doesn't mean ****.

uh

Morales, the biggest star from Mexico since JCC as you state, did a paltry 125k buys in his fight with Famoso Hernandez or did you forget that?