Dan Rafael: "Pac's 700K PPV buys = Floyd/Judah and Floyd/Baldomir COMBINED"

[Equinox]

Pac-DLH-1.2m
Floyd DLH-2.4

Pac-Hatton-800k
Floyd-Hatton 850k

Pac-Jmm 2 fights= 700-800k
Floyd-Jmm 1 fight= 1 mil

Actually floyd-hatton did 910k and only one pac-jmm fight was on ppv and it did 400k.

[Hi-Dro]

damn haterism runs deep beyond the sceen

[kedashy]

People please ... Everyone knows that floyd was pretty much forced to fight shane do to pacquaio beating the sht out of cotto and challenging clottey after negotiaitons failed... He had to step up and fight someone legit... I be surprised if mosley wins personnally due to inactivity in the ring and age so if you ask me he still hasn,t stepped up...

[madsweeney]

Dan Rafael hasn't ever ran at least for more than 2 minutes, So how the hell can he judge a sport where he doesn't even REALLY know it?

And obviously you haven't written more than a single paragraph so how the hell can you judge a man about his writing?!?

[MayweatherJr.]

*****s you gotta realize had he not said anything about being the face nor being the "Cash Cow" of boxing nobody would say anything about his ppv #s. What Dan has said was true and accurate, so why you all being sensitive and butt hurt?

[mikeyh1015]

Dan is an idiot, truly a disappointment to boxing.

[Eaner0919]

*****s you gotta realize had he not said anything about being the face nor being the "Cash Cow" of boxing nobody would say anything about his ppv #s. What Dan has said was true and accurate, so why you all being sensitive and butt hurt?

but is it fair to compare a Manny PPV in 2009, when his own star power is at a peak, with that of a Mayweather in 2006 when his own star power was still in the process of being generated?

heck why doesn't he compare Floyd of 2006 with Manny of 2006?

Floyd:

Baldomir 325
Judah 375

700 total buys

averaging 350

Manny

Morales II: 350
Solis: 200
Morales III: 350

900 total buys

averaging 300


as you guys state

numbers don't lie

[The Underboss]

Interesting.......

[The Gambler1981]

*****s you gotta realize had he not said anything about being the face nor being the "Cash Cow" of boxing nobody would say anything about his ppv #s. What Dan has said was true and accurate, so why you all being sensitive and butt hurt?

So when Flody-Mosley does more than twice as much and people run their mouths about that you should have no issue as it is an accurate statement. Since you seem to not care about issues that lead to that accurate statement.

[big_james10]

Pacquiao's star power can't be denied
March, 25, 2010
Dan Rafael (ESPN)



The growth of Manny Pacquiao into a true mega star is nothing short of remarkable. For those of you who have said (and lots of you have) that the 700,000 pay-per-view buys and $35.3 million he generated for his March 13 fight against Joshua Clottey was a disappointment: You are insane.

And make no mistake about it -- Pacquiao, admittedly with an assist from an exotic venue, the absolutely incredible Cowboys Stadium, which was hosting a fight for the first time, is the reason the fight sold so well. Clottey, who has zero fan base to speak of, had nothing to do with it.

Sure, Clottey is known to those of us who follow boxing closely, but to get 700,000 buys -- not to mention a crowd of almost 51,000 (the third-largest for a fight in the United States in about a half-century) -- you need more than just Fight Freaks tuning in. You need casual fans.

Don't forget these three facts either:

1. The fight achieved the numbers it did even though from announcement to fight night there were barely two months to promote the bout. Most HBO PPV fights are promoted using at least a three-month window.

2. There was no "24/7" series on HBO building up the fight for four weeks like there has been in recent years for bouts involving the sport's biggest stars.

3. Neither participant in the bout was American.

And get this: according to HBO and Top Rank promoter Bob Arum, the PPV total will rise, like most do, once all the buys are officially accounted for. This one could increase another 25,000 or more.

You can look up and down the history of boxing pay-per-view and, other than some crazy seven-figure buy fights that Mike Tyson did against similarly unknown opponents such as Peter McNeeley and Bruce Seldon, you would be hard-pressed to find any boxer who has ever done so much business against such an unknown opponent, and that includes Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather Jr., Evander Holyfield and other stars who have thrived on pay-per-view.

Even the great Roy Jones never came close to 700,000 buys for one of his PPV fights, even when he fought significant fights against name opponents.

Let's put what Pacquiao did into even greater perspective: He generated double the buys that Mayweather did for his fights with Zab Judah (375,000) and Carlos Baldomir (325,000) combined.

http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blo...r-power-denied

This is a rather ridiculous comparison. He is comparing pre-Oscar Mayweather to post-Oscar Pacquaio. This looks like the kind of crap a Mayweather hater on this site would post. I could easily say that Mayweather-Marquez had more PPV buys than Pac's PPV fight with Marquez and his two PPV fights with Morales combined. What would be the point?