Dissecting the "Pacquiao must be on PEDs" argument

[PAKYO]

he avoided test. that deads the myth hes not onsomething. dude is hiding something

Do you even understand what's in your sig? It really applies to you.

[Schmerzen]

Then he's not the best there is, he's a fraud with all his pronouncement that Pac is an easy fight as floyd is scared of his life.

FLOYD IS A FRAUD - burner

any more newsflash?

scared of giving blood is also not something a hero like this man
should be.

We're just going back and forth with that kind of argument.

If you want the fight to happen, then let all demands by both sides be dropped and just follow the normal regulations.

Anything else is bull****!

if i step ever in the ring to fight u im ok with that, but we have to deal with 2 big egos, maybe the 2 biggest in boxing today.

[Alibata]

no not really but it didn't fail me you think that way

here is what I have always believed as honestly as I can put

do I think Manny is juicing? I don't know. Honestly.

however, given the things I have heard firsthand from people in this business, I think it's fair to speculate about it

thus my debating this with those who think it outlandish to even approach the subject

that's it

if you look I really never claimed he is or isn't. Just went about setting the record straight on some aspects, debating the validity of the speculation in others and fortifying those who think it's okay to ask.

see what happened on here is now what is happening a bit towards me

Manny's fans have such a fervor for their fighter anyone with a discerning eye gets ganged. If it's a point it gets ****ted on etc etc. Then it moves into discrediting the person either by calling the nuthuggers or by dismissing their statements as lies. Fine I am a big boy and if I make claims then I better be prepared to have lash back for it.

can I prove that this was talked about prior to Sr? sure but honestly not without naming people who talked about in off the record type talking which I won't do and have never done even outside of this Manny talk

I am privy to a lot of that and what I pass on to people here is a high level sharing of that. I have shared way more information about other subjects than this in fact I haven't really shared anything about this other than I have had several conversations with people way before Sr stated it

but it is all depending on whether you the audience believe what I say

some will knowing that I have no reason to lie (I dont hate Manny at all and am friends with several members of his team) and have shared other information which turned out to be true

some won't because well to be honest I have no way of showing you anything without naming people who trust that I won't name them in anything

point though to me has always been this is a good subject to debate and one that can and should be debated without the name calling and slurs being thrown about

period

so hate me for what I state
discredit me for what I cannot share

I really have no reason to lie about all this

Just leave it at that. Stick to supplying equipment.

[htown00]

PLAIN AND SIMPLE
ON THESE BOARD TWO THINGS ARE SURE
1. PACS FANS WILL ALWAYS THINK THAT FLOYD IS SCARED AND THAT IS WHY HE BROUGHT UP THE TESTS WHEN NEGOTIATIING WITH PAC AND THEY WILL THINK PAC IS CLEAN NO MATTER WHAT. EVEN IF HE COMES OUT DIRTY THEY WILL SWEAR THE TESTS WERE TAINTED.
AND
2. FLOYD FANS WILL INSIST THAT PAC IS SU****IOUS UNTIL HE TAKES THE TESTS AND THAT FLOYD IS TRYING TO CLEAN THE SPORT. AND IF PACKY TAKES THE TEST AND COMES OUT CLEAN THEN FLOYDS FANS WILL SWEAR THAT PAC IS STILL ON SOMETHING THAT CANT BE DETECTED

SO REALLY WHATS THE POINT OF THIS ENDLESS DEBATE

NEITHER FAN IS GOING TO SEE THE OTHERS POINT

I actually don't see number 2 happening. Most of the Floyd fans didn't believe Sr. until Manny behaved the way that he did.

[htown00]

Don't just postride post and keep saying "agreed", try to use your brains, it's there for a reason!

Lol...calm down...what's so wrong with what he said...it seemed unbiased.

[Eaner0919]

Ok,,,so link me one single post on that site where you believed or heard rumors of Pac/steroids back in 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002.....

Surely you must have one post on this or any other site back then, since these rumors were so "widespread"....

sorry it took so long

http://forums.maxboxing.com/index.ph...ic=24394&st=30

post #58

"its funny but I posed that question to one writer and he laughed

then I brought up Hopkins and he said he could see it

it's amazing what perceptions can do

do I think he juices? IDK but I have asked the question a few times to those and I get dismissed like someone who doesn't know the sport"

so yes I have discussed this way before Sr said anything

anything else?

[Eaner0919]

I'll bet my two left nuts, he can't, no one can.

*****s are running away from this thread.

They're getting owned.

I just did

care to hand over your nuts?

[Eaner0919]

Dude, did you know i ****ed beyonce once? Would you believe me if i tell you i smacked her face too and there are several witnesses i cannot name as this issue is highly embarassing? I cannot and will not provide proof either you just have to take my word for it...

You may not believe me, but i have no reason to lie either.

Good analogy, eh?

If we had no reason not to believe then sure why not?

what reason do you have NOT to believe me other than I am a supposed hater of Manny?

[-Rab]

Pacquiao having trouble keeping the 130 weight? Come one now....

[M.I.C.]

Tell Pac's ***** azz to take the test and there will be no need to start threads like this