Manny Pacquiao vs. Jesus Chavez

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  • Tha Greatest
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    #31
    Originally posted by abdiel2k3
    lol
    well dats only cuz chavez aint much
    like i said b4
    i aint a pac hater
    i just dont think he can beat jmm mab,again, em rafa or prolly nt even larios
    U just said you dont think he can beat MAB again!

    YOU THE GREATEST!!!!(next to me)

    HELL YA, MAB THE GREATEST!

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    • xKillingJokex
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      #32
      At 130..Pac would have trouble.against..jesus...Chavez wins a SD

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      • m00ks
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        #33
        Originally posted by abdiel2k3
        lol
        well dats only cuz chavez aint much
        like i said b4
        i aint a pac hater
        i just dont think he can beat jmm mab,again, em rafa or prolly nt even larios
        lmao so in other words you're saying you don't think he can beat any mexicans? hehehehe

        Anyweyz, Pac has trouble dealing with good, accurate counterpunchers, not guys who bring it to him. I'll start worrying if he faces a harder target to hit. But when the guy is coming to him? lol yoooo 126 or 130 **** that the kid can still knock your teeth out. 130 is much no problem, he's just gotta get accustomed to carrying the weight and not come in nearing 140 cuz that's crazy. Chavez is also 5'5 so size disparity? meh negligeable.

        Pac's still got the power and the handspeed was somewhat there although not as fast as when he was at 126. Pac's faced mad caliber of opponents in his 4 fights. Chavez won't be something he's never seen. Charted territory....

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        • abdiel2k3
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          #34
          Originally posted by m00ks
          lmao so in other words you're saying you don't think he can beat any mexicans? hehehehe
          no
          im sure deres plenty of mexicans he can beat
          just not those guys i mentioned

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          • m00ks
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            #35
            Originally posted by abdiel2k3
            no
            im sure deres plenty of mexicans he can beat
            just not those guys i mentioned
            lol ok ok but is there any other mexicans worth mentioning that he can beat? I mean he's already undefeated against 2 of the most skilled fighters in your list but hey, let's call it lucky

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            • kadyo's
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              #36
              Originally posted by abdiel2k3
              lol
              well dats only cuz chavez aint much
              like i said b4
              i aint a pac r
              i just dont think he can beat jmm mab,again, em rafa or prolly nt even larios
              bwahahahahahahaha!!!! yeah right , you're not a pac hater alright!
              Last edited by kadyo's; 05-30-2005, 03:18 AM.

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              • kadyo's
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                #37
                Originally posted by ghetto passport
                Lets say Erik Morales moves up to 135 to challenge Juan Diaz for his belt and vacates his 130lb. title.
                Who would you guys pick between Jesus and Manny?

                I give the slight edge to PACQUIAO.
                My first time to hear that he still has a title. I thought he lost the title to MAB.

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                • DLT
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by m00ks
                  lmao so in other words you're saying you don't think he can beat any mexicans? hehehehe

                  Anyweyz, Pac has trouble dealing with good, accurate counterpunchers, not guys who bring it to him. I'll start worrying if he faces a harder target to hit. But when the guy is coming to him? lol yoooo 126 or 130 **** that the kid can still knock your teeth out. 130 is much no problem, he's just gotta get accustomed to carrying the weight and not come in nearing 140 cuz that's crazy. Chavez is also 5'5 so size disparity? meh negligeable.

                  Pac's still got the power and the handspeed was somewhat there although not as fast as when he was at 126. Pac's faced mad caliber of opponents in his 4 fights. Chavez won't be something he's never seen. Charted territory....
                  Your so one sided. Chaves has been in with top guys also and the weight is a big differnce so stop down playing it. Chaves has been at 130 his whole career while Pac started at like 118 or 115. You act like you never heard of guys not carrying the power. Ever Morlaes lost alot of power. Pac loses power from 126-130 and also more importantly the guys are bigger and stronger and used to power. The same punches that hurt small guys wont hurt big guys. You said Pac had power at 126 but those guys were small he was fighting. MAB and Marquez didnt start there. Chaves is a full fledge 130 pounder and Pac's punches wont be nothing special to him

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                  • chito
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                    #39
                    bring it on! to all who think chavez will beat pac if they meet, im saying this, pac's speed will matter here. and i don't think he lost his power when he entered 130. yes he lost to morales but the question is, did pac hit morales solidly? no. because morales fought a very tactical fight in order to win against pac. don't you think morales' chin is not that superb? and chavez is no morales! im giving pac the edge here! because chavez is not that hard to hit. his style fits perfectly to pac's in and out game. i won't be surprised if pac ko'd him in the early rounds.

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                    • chito
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                      #40
                      i saw chavez against hernandez and he didn't win it hands down. he's rusty. frankly i was surprised when he got the decision. the 3rd judge didn't do it right, what's the score again? was it 119-111. 115-113 is so right, either way.

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