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  • pasawayako
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    #41
    Floyd doesn't have an option but to give up the OST if he want's this fight to happen or else pac will just retire especially if he win this may election.

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      #42
      Originally posted by S K I N
      Exactly hit the Nail on the head, People can say what they like that "Floyd doesn't care about legacy or status,"
      He believes he is the best and he ain't dumb he knows at the moment he has to prove that!
      Now what better what to that then beating the top guy and making the biggest pay cheque of his life?
      Knowing that this isn't the toughest fight out there for him and that he can retire comfortably after......

      People don't look at the fact that Floyd has been extremely easy going in the negotiations for this fight:
      • Agreed to 50/50 Split- When he clearly has the high PPV numbers
      • Agreed to 10oz Gloves- He wanted 8oz Gloves
      • Agreed to 10MILLION dollar fine- Never even heard of in the sport
      • Agreed to fight in Dallas- Agreed to Bob Arums demand
      • Agreed to fight at 147- Firstly wanted it at 154 to distinguish any thoughts of Catchweight bull****

      he NEVER agreed to fight in dallas, in fact, schaffer never even went to visit cowboys stadium with arum.....the fight was always being eyed for vegas first.

      and it's a "myth" floyd wanted the fight at 154. some bull**** roach said....


      floyd gave in to the other demands b/c he wanted the fight, clearly.

      pacquiao just did 700,000 ppvs, mayweather-mosley will likely double that. the ball isn't in manny's court anymore.

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        #43
        floyd wont cave in....you can bet that

        team pac, a bunch of checker players thought they were going to have the upperhand. floyd chess player gave them a gift the first time around and they ******ly didnt take it and shot themselves in the both feet.

        check!

        floyd is the shot caller
        Last edited by Pacquiao'd; 03-24-2010, 07:33 PM.

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          #44
          Originally posted by yesir
          floyd wont cave in....you can bet that

          team pac, a bunch of checker players thought they were going to have the upperhand. floyd chess player gave them a gift the first time around and they ******ly didnt take it and shot themselves in the both feet.

          check!

          floyd is the shot caller
          yea, i don't get what some of these guys are thinking.


          floyd fought mosley for 2 reasons....it was the biggest money fight out there for him, and he knew that fight would be a bigger fight than whoever pac was fighting against.


          floyd has already stated if his ppv is more successful, which it will be, not only is he asking for a bigger cut, but he's asking for OST up until fight night.

          add to that, he's making mosley take the tests. no way in hell will he kill the demand for pacquiao after that.

          like you said, chess, not checkers. this mosley fight was a strategic move.

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            #45
            Originally posted by TYREL
            yea, i don't get what some of these guys are thinking.


            floyd fought mosley for 2 reasons....it was the biggest money fight out there for him, and he knew that fight would be a bigger fight than whoever pac was fighting against.


            floyd has already stated if his ppv is more successful, which it will be, not only is he asking for a bigger cut, but he's asking for OST up until fight night.

            add to that, he's making mosley take the tests. no way in hell will he kill the demand for pacquiao after that.

            like you said, chess, not checkers. this mosley fight was a strategic move.
            exactly. its funny how team pac and arum used clottey as a "strategic move" thinking it would put floyds back against the wall

            they have got to have one of the dumbest teams in boxing. as lincoln said
            You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.

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              #46
              Originally posted by TYREL
              yea, i don't get what some of these guys are thinking.


              floyd fought mosley for 2 reasons....it was the biggest money fight out there for him, and he knew that fight would be a bigger fight than whoever pac was fighting against.


              floyd has already stated if his ppv is more successful, which it will be, not only is he asking for a bigger cut, but he's asking for OST up until fight night.

              add to that, he's making mosley take the tests. no way in hell will he kill the demand for pacquiao after that.

              like you said, chess, not checkers. this mosley fight was a strategic move.
              maybe...
              but Mosley is not a guaranteed victory...
              if Mosley wins then Mayweather is out of the picture ...UNLESS
              rematch happens and they are even at 1-1 ...which would demand a third fight....leaving Manny out of their tournament but still Manny will be p4p 1

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                #47
                Originally posted by RedWhiteBlue
                maybe...
                but Mosley is not a guaranteed victory...
                if Mosley wins then Mayweather is out of the picture ...UNLESS
                rematch happens and they are even at 1-1 ...which would demand a third fight....leaving Manny out of their tournament but still Manny will be p4p 1
                If Floyd beats Mosley, he has no else other to fight then Manny,
                If Floyd losses Manny won't fight him

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by KrisSilver
                  Some valid points, Floyd has talked of testing being pointless when the drugs can be flushed out within days. So what's the point then in settling for anything bar random testing up until fight night?

                  Why has he suddenly become so drastic on the front of drugs, when he barely mentioned it for anyone else, not even JMM awhile ago?

                  Doesn't make sense, the bartering between 14 and 24 days was pointless. They should have just all met in the middle at 19 days. Why didn't they? Because it's all politics, fight building, putting it off, publicity, and stubborn bargaining.
                  Remember that Floyd originally wanted no cutoff date at all(As it should have been), then Pacquiao's camp started bringing in the semantics(Pacquiao needs 5 days, then 30 days, then he's caught on camera giving blood 24 days before the Hatton fight so they go down to 24).

                  Mayweather came down to 14 days even though like you said, even he himself believes that is too much time.

                  So having said that if Mayweather was willing to compromise what the purpose of testing was in the first place(At least in his opinion) then I really have to question who did more to make this fight happen.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by S K I N
                    If Floyd beats Mosley, he has no else other to fight then Manny,
                    If Floyd losses Manny won't fight him

                    Trust me, win or no win against Mosley Mayweather would rematch him..If they do great numbers Mayweather would fight Mosley again while waiting for other boxers not affiliated with Arum to get their name up so he could fight them, I dont think the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight would ever happen especially with Arum still around.

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                    • PAKYO
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by TYREL
                      mayweather's not gonna cave, especially if mayweather-mosley annihilates pacquiao-clottey in sales. mayweather has already stated he'll demand a bigger cut, and he'll demand OST "all the way up until the fight." he may be just talking ****, but i find it hard to believe he'll be the one to cave in, if the may 1st ppv does exceptionally well.

                      also, he got mosley to take the tests, it would raise too many questions about his intentions if he then turns around and says "manny doesn't have to take the tests i made mosley agree to."

                      i think the fight will happen, but i'm having a hard time trying to figure out how.....
                      This is what i'm worried about more, money issues. Either way, they both should take 50/50. But the way floyd has announced he won't do it, and if suddenly his fight with Mosley doesn't do well, expect Manny to say he will not accept 50/50 also.


                      Originally posted by rao007
                      I am being honest....Mayweather will do it for the money in th end and will sign the contract...and of course Pacquiao is sincere...remember when he faced Morales the first time---he was making weight and to make matters worse he got blood drawn which would've made likely multiplied the weak feeling he might have had....and the next day...he got his ears boxed off....so I don't fault him for refusing so close to the fight but 14 days should be more than enough time to recover unless it causes Pacquiao to miss crucial sparring days.

                      And I don't believe 24 or 14 day makes a damn difference....in the end...the best man wins regardless of PEDs.
                      Agree, peds doesn't matter at all unless you're using on fight night.

                      Originally posted by The Bay Bomber
                      Hmmm I think PAcquiao is more likely to cave. He just wants to get the fight signed and delievered.
                      Uhhmm....no. He's as swell-headed as floyd.

                      Originally posted by RedWhiteBlue
                      I do think that Arum played a BIG role in the fight not happening.

                      If they did fight then Manny would not have had the third largest boxing crowd in history! with a conservative fighter in Clottey.

                      If they did fight then Manny would not be going into his political campaign with a guaranteed victory.

                      If they did fight then Arum and Jones would have not had all that fun promoting the stadium and making lots of money.

                      Mayweather would not have agreed to Dallas Cowboys Stadium.
                      I just can't agree with the bolded part, even the people in the province where Manny is running will disagree with you vehemently.


                      Originally posted by S K I N
                      If Floyd beats Mosley, he has no else other to fight then Manny,
                      If Floyd losses Manny won't fight him
                      Looks like that's what's going to happen. Manny can afford not to fight floyd, he doesn't need the money nor the legacy anymore. He'll more likely fight Shane if he wins.

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