Should we review and change results of every fight if applicable?

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  • Spray_resistant
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    Should we review and change results of every fight if applicable?

    I think some research should be done by a committee and I would be willing to volunteer for this job it sounds great, where every single televised fight is reviewed whether it was controversial or not and any call by the ref that via video evidence was deemed a bad call or anything that was missed by a ref should be changed.

    Like a headbutt that caused a cut and it was stopped and later ruled a TKO, even if the fight is 20 years old it should be changed to a NC.

    Another situation would be if a KD was not called or ruled a slip, but was clearly a legit KD it should be called such and changed on records.

    If a change on a record altered a close fight even a title fight, so be it. We take a title off a fighters record because its the right thing to do and being that boxing is such a subjective sport we should do everything possible to ensure results of fights reflect reality in that ring.

    If we don't make sure that what actually happens in the ring is reflected in official results then it minimizes and in some cases defeats the impact of what competition means and its not fair to fans and most importantly not fair to fighters who put their health on the line and spend so much time training to make a living.

    Thoughts, opinions?
  • Dan...
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    #2
    You get into pretty dangerous territory in any sport when you start opening up results to retrospective reviews IMO.

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    • BoxingFanFirst
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      #3
      I think they should just have open scoring. Each round if needed, or every 4 rds like they did on a fight a month or 2 ago. it really makes judges own up to what there doing, instead of handing the score cards over and bailing.

      What sport doesn't give the score. Imagine basketball, and you didn't have the score til it was over. I know its hard to compare, but just think about it.

      I don't really like the thought of having everything reviewed though. I wouldn't mind an appeal. Then id think you would need an appeals committee that would need to vote if its worthy to go to review.

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      • Dan...
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        #4
        Originally posted by Spray_resistant
        I think some research should be done by a committee and I would be willing to volunteer for this job it sounds great, where every single televised fight is reviewed whether it was controversial or not and any call by the ref that via video evidence was deemed a bad call or anything that was missed by a ref should be changed.

        Like a headbutt that caused a cut and it was stopped and later ruled a TKO, even if the fight is 20 years old it should be changed to a NC.

        Another situation would be if a KD was not called or ruled a slip, but was clearly a legit KD it should be called such and changed on records.

        If a change on a record altered a close fight even a title fight, so be it. We take a title off a fighters record because its the right thing to do and being that boxing is such a subjective sport we should do everything possible to ensure results of fights reflect reality in that ring.

        If we don't make sure that what actually happens in the ring is reflected in official results then it minimizes and in some cases defeats the impact of what competition means and its not fair to fans and most importantly not fair to fighters who put their health on the line and spend so much time training to make a living.

        Thoughts, opinions?
        Also, the bolded part pretty much highlights why your proposal is unworkable.

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        • -The Glove-
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          #5
          It would be great going forward. No point in going back in time and changing results. There should be a panel to oversee and override idiotic and blind judges too.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Dan...
            You get into pretty dangerous territory in any sport when you start opening up results to retrospective reviews IMO.
            I realize it could cause some problems like what if in a title fight 1 point separated a title change and the fighter who won lost the title his next fight to another fighter, and that fighter lost his title to another fighter later but if we don't ensure that what really happens is reflected than what does it really mean anyway of a guy is walking around with a title he didn't really deserve in the 1st place?

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            • -Boxzilla-
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              #7
              whats up with instant replay ... i thought its been initiated in some states but i havent seen it used yet. i think that should be key for ruling in the case of headbutts.

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              • AKATheMack
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                #8
                Every close fight for the past 3 years or so has been a robbery. Lots of reviews.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dan...
                  Also, the bolded part pretty much highlights why your proposal is unworkable.
                  On some things but a cut caused by a headbutt or punch and a video showing that is not open to interpretation.

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                  • Dan...
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                    I realize it could cause some problems like what if in a title fight 1 point separated a title change and the fighter who won lost the title his next fight to another fighter, and that fighter lost his title to another fighter later but if we don't ensure that what really happens is reflected than what does it really mean anyway of a guy is walking around with a title he didn't really deserve in the 1st place?
                    Well first off there is no possible way you can do this going back in time. Are you actually proposing to take titles off fighters' records because the guy they beat wasn't the legitimate champion because of a result you overturned? Because if so that is completely mental and up with the most ridiculous things i have ever heard.

                    Going forward it might have some merit to a limited extent but I still don't like it. Maybe some form of review system with very limited scope, but that is about it. I'm not sure I am cool with a "panel" looking at a fight to try and establish how a cut was initiated for instance. That could get very messy.

                    The sport is subjective. Controversial decisions have been a part of boxing since day one and they will continue to be.

                    That is my take on it.

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