Your super middleweight rankings??

**hateinyaeyes32** · 03-23-2010, 06:41 AM

Originally posted by SpinDoctor

1 Arthur Abraham Germany 31-0-0 (25)
2 Carl Froch England 26-0-0 (20)
3 Lucian Bute Romania 25-0-0 (20)
4 Andre Ward USA 21-0-0 (13)
5 Mikkel Kessler Denmark 42-2-0 (32)
6 Andre Dirrell USA 18-1-0 (13)
7 Allan Green USA 29-1-0 (20)
8 Sakio Bika Cameroon 28-3-2 (19)
9 Robert Stieglitz Germany 37-2-0 (23)
10 Jesse Brinkley USA 35-5-0 (22)

By resume Abraham is way above everyone else with 10 title defenses against opponents who had a combined record of 250-15-8

It's gonna be a far fall from the top after Abe loses this weekend against Dirrell.

**SpinDoctor** · 03-23-2010, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by hateinyaeyes32

It's gonna be a far fall from the top after Abe loses this weekend against Dirrell.

i'm gonna have to put dirrell under bika after the king knocks dirrell the fux out.

**hateinyaeyes32** · 03-23-2010, 06:54 AM

Originally posted by SpinDoctor

i'm gonna have to put dirrell under bika after the king knocks dirrell the fux out.

Sad thing is, Jesse Brinkley would beat the **** out of AA... sorry to tell you that.

LMAO ok that's a little extreme, but really Dirrell wont get caught by Abraham, he just got a new pair of nike's not boxing but track shoes, because he knows hes going to have to race this weekend... But he'll outbox AA any day, and I'll be lucky enough to witness it live at Joe Louis Arena for a hot 30 dollars.

**dans** · 03-23-2010, 07:11 AM

Originally posted by SpinDoctor

1 Arthur Abraham Germany 31-0-0 (25)
2 Carl Froch England 26-0-0 (20)
3 Lucian Bute Romania 25-0-0 (20)
4 Andre Ward USA 21-0-0 (13)
5 Mikkel Kessler Denmark 42-2-0 (32)
6 Andre Dirrell USA 18-1-0 (13)
7 Allan Green USA 29-1-0 (20)
8 Sakio Bika Cameroon 28-3-2 (19)
9 Robert Stieglitz Germany 37-2-0 (23)
10 Jesse Brinkley USA 35-5-0 (22)

By resume Abraham is way above everyone else with 10 title defenses against opponents who had a combined record of 250-15-8

Good rankings. One change I would make is putting Librado Andrade at 9, bump Brinkley off and Stieglitz at 10. Other than that, this is perfect in my eyes.

Remember Andrande TKOed Stieglitz in 2008

**damned1974** · 03-23-2010, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by SpinDoctor

1 Arthur Abraham Germany 31-0-0 (25)
2 Carl Froch England 26-0-0 (20)
3 Lucian Bute Romania 25-0-0 (20)
4 Andre Ward USA 21-0-0 (13)
5 Mikkel Kessler Denmark 42-2-0 (32)
6 Andre Dirrell USA 18-1-0 (13)
7 Allan Green USA 29-1-0 (20)
8 Sakio Bika Cameroon 28-3-2 (19)
9 Robert Stieglitz Germany 37-2-0 (23)
10 Jesse Brinkley USA 35-5-0 (22)

By resume Abraham is way above everyone else with 10 title defenses against opponents who had a combined record of 250-15-8

I wouldn't judge Abraham's SMW career by his career at MIDDLEWEIGHT with only one fight in this division,how is it possible to rate him as number one? At the moment I would have even Andre Ward above Abraham,they both beat Miranda (Ward beat him at SMW),but Ward beat Kessler-who was on most lists as the best SMW until Ward dominated him.
Abraham had just won against a previously KO'd Taylor who lost 3 out of his 4 prior fights-2 by brutal stoppage...if we are talking about resumes and quality.

**BattlingNelson** · 03-23-2010, 07:31 AM

No way AA should be no. 1. All he has done is beat Jermain Taylor.

I'm not sure about the no.1 spot. The top contenders for that spot is Ward and Froch and perhaps Bute.

I guess my rankings would be as this but it's clear that not much separates the top guys:

1: Ward
2: Froch
3: Bute
4: Abraham
5: Kessler
6: Stieglitz
7: Bika
8: Taylor
9: Andrade
10: Green

It's hard to make a case for Direll being in the top 10. Having Brinkley there gave me a good lol.

**SpinDoctor** · 03-23-2010, 07:32 AM

Originally posted by damned1974

I wouldn't judge Abraham's SMW career by his career at MIDDLEWEIGHT with only one fight in this division,how is it possible to rate him as number one? At the moment I would have even Andre Ward above Abraham,they both beat Miranda (Ward beat him at SMW),but Ward beat Kessler-who was on most lists as the best SMW until Ward dominated him.
Abraham had just won against a previously KO'd Taylor who lost 3 out of his 4 prior fights-2 by brutal stoppage...if we are talking about resumes and quality.

abraham also beat miranda fighting at smw in their second fight, he also won around 7 fights at smw before that.

**damned1974** · 03-23-2010, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by SpinDoctor

abraham also beat miranda fighting at smw in their second fight, he also won around 7 fights at smw before that.

Abraham's quality doesn't succeed Ward's quality.Hard to make a case that it would....Abraham may end up being the best,if he can get past Ward,etc-but there are a lot of assumptions to make that he would even get that far.At the moment,Abraham has not even held a SMW title!

**BattlingNelson** · 03-23-2010, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by SpinDoctor

abraham also beat miranda fighting at smw in their second fight, he also won around 7 fights at smw before that.

When and WHO was that????

Your super middleweight rankings??