Is Tua the most overrated HW right now (even more than Haye)?

[Bring It On]

When I said Chambers has defeated several competition:

You laughed at Peter's name, Peter was ranked in the top 10 by every reputable ranking, but you think you know better than them.

Then you try to divert the point comparing Chambers and Tua, saying Chambers is overrated, which is not what I was refering to (though it again shows your rankings are better than the reputable sources' rankings), with this post.

Not once did I say he wasn't ranked top10 at the time. The phrase "Chambers had beaten several top 10 HWs" sounds like he had beaten more then two mid-low top10s and lost to one mid top10 to me. That's what I was laughing about.

Oh, I'm sorry for not sticking to the topic 100%. That's the first that ever happened on this board and I deeply regret it!

[Lakas]

Tua knocked out Ruiz in the first round of a fight over ten years ago. Things might be different now, but I think Tua has proven himself over Ruiz.

Ten years ago I was in gr 9 son. Not anymore.


Alot can change in 10 years junior

[Bring It On]

Let's look at the definition of several:

Consisting of a number more than two, but not very many

http://www.brainyquote.com/words/se/several218512.html

people or objects, more than two, but not very many

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/several


Who is the third one?

[Pirao]

Let's look at the definition of several:


http://www.brainyquote.com/words/se/several218512.html


http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/several


Who is the third one?

Calvin Brock was top 10 IIRC.

Not once did I say he wasn't ranked top10 at the time. The phrase "Chambers had beaten several top 10 HWs" sounds like he had beaten more then two mid-low top10s and lost to one mid top10 to me. That's what I was laughing about.

Oh, I'm sorry for not sticking to the topic 100%. That's the first that ever happened on this board and I deeply regret it!

Yeah, sure you were

[Bring It On]

Calvin Brock was top 10 IIRC.



Yeah, sure you were

I doubt that.

Yes, I was. I wasn't sure about Sam Peters ranking a year ago and couldn't think of any other fighter Chambers had beaten that was ranked top10 at the time.

[Pirao]

I doubt that.

Yes, I was. I wasn't sure about Sam Peters ranking a year ago and couldn't think of any other fighter Chambers had beaten that was ranked top10 at the time.

The way you wrote the post clearly indicated that you didn't believe Peter was top 10, you wrote "Dimitrenko was top, who else? Peter? Lol", you can try to spin it any way you want, I'll let anyone who reads it get their own conclusions.

[Bring It On]

The way you wrote the post clearly indicated that you didn't believe Peter was top 10, you wrote "Dimitrenko was top, who else? Peter? Lol", you can try to spin it any way you want, I'll let anyone who reads it get their own conclusions.

Let's set the record straight, I wrote: "Several? Dimitrenko, who else? Peters? lol."

I was pretty sure about Dimitrenko being top10, but Peter. And I def. wasn't sure about it being several. And I still doubt it is. If it didn't come across that way, that's too bad. English is not my first language and I write far from perfect.

[Pirao]

Let's set the record straight, I wrote: "Several? Dimitrenko, who else? Peters? lol."

I was pretty sure about Dimitrenko being top10, but Peter. And I def. wasn't sure about it being several. And I still doubt it is. If it didn't come across that way, that's too bad. English is not my first language and I write far from perfect.

Ok, fair enough man, maybe something was lost in translation, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I know Peter and Dimitrenko were top 10 for sure, Brock I don't know for sure because I was not following boxing yet at the time, but I think it's a reasonable assumption, since Brock had faced Wlad a short time ago, and Brock was top 10 when he fought Wlad, I doubt a loss against Wlad made him fall out of the top 10, and he had two wins since that loss when he fought Chambers. Maybe someone who was around at the time can clear this up?

[Clyde Barrow]

No way. Most don't give him enough respect tbh. Tua is a relic of the previous HW era, but a good one. Both Klits dominate him. But give him a shot at Haye and Haye dies a violent death.

[Pirao]

No way. Most don't give him enough respect tbh. Tua is a relic of the previous HW era, but a good one. Both Klits dominate him. But give him a shot at Haye and Haye dies a violent death.

Yeah I think Tua has a good shot at Haye, but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that Tua would win. But I have seen quite some people saying "Tua would crack Wlad's glass chin" and "Wlad should give a shot to Tua, he's afraid of him" and the like, when Tua has not beaten anyone good in quite some time.

I'll admit that Vitali-Tua would be much better than Vitali-Sosnowski, though