Fighters who lost their debut but became elite afterwards

[Glamour Puss]

Juan Manuel Marquez

Beat me to it!!!

[djtmal]

Yeah but he could do it so why not do it.

yeah i guess, but it still astounds me why anyone would pay to see him fight...or why he is rated so high with losses to calzaghe and jermaine taylor, and overrated wins against smaller fighters

[Suckmedry]

I'm not sure about lsoing his debut, but wasn't Rafa M stopped in like 3 of his first 15 fights or something?

[Ivansmamma]

yeah i guess, but it still astounds me why anyone would pay to see him fight...or why he is rated so high with losses to calzaghe and jermaine taylor, and overrated wins against smaller fighters

I both agree and disagree, his best wins are against smaller fighters and when he fought good fighters his own size like Jones and Calzaghe he was beat but i still was really impressed when he moved up in weight and beat Tarver and when he beat an undefeated Pavlik even if Pavlik also was a smaller man and Tarver might have been drained.

[ИATAS]

yeah i guess, but it still astounds me why anyone would pay to see him fight...or why he is rated so high with losses to calzaghe and jermaine taylor, and overrated wins against smaller fighters

lol is that your only purpose in life, to talk **** about hopkins?

I'm sorry he beat up your brother all those years ago, let it go man, let it go.

[The Golden Boy]

Sweet Pea lost his first 3 or 4 (cant remember) amateur fights.