Lol at anyone who thinks Haye beats Wlad.

[Earl-Hickey]

I have no idea.

Since when did beating Chambers means he takes out every Heavyweight in history?

It's so random, you go into a klitschko thread and theres like 20 people with <100 posts, all nuthugging the big boys, I think it's the same person, signing in and out at superspeed.

[kenso]

I have no idea.

Since when did beating Chambers means he takes out every Heavyweight in history?

certainly the ATG threads have become absurd.

simply put - klitschkos can never be the #1s of all time cause the names aren't around. and there are only 2 ways to make a REAL case for yourself at heavyweight now.

1. beat a klitschko
2. seize the opportunity when they retire

even if they COULD beat ali, foreman, who ever... it would not matter because this is a different age. fighters and athletes are a different breed, especially with steroids. and trust me, several of all of your favorite fighters, and athletes - use them.


why are people using the "haye will move and give angles" reasoning? isn't this the same reasoning we have heard over and over and over? certainly someone needs to come up with something realistic. haye does not have superior boxing skills, he doesn't completely DOMINATE fighters for every single round. that is the kind of fighter lennox lewis was, and that is the kind of fighter that the klitschkos are. and the only fighter that ever competed with either of them was lennox lewis. fluke ko losses dont count. everyone knows wlad could beat the people that beat him, especially since he has matured.

whats funny is most of these people that are claiming that the klitschkos would lose to haye, povetkin, or to rematches with purritty and sanders - is the fact that if someone handed them $500 bucks and said put it on a fighter, they would go with the smart bet - a klitschko.

let haye beat the adamek - arreola winner CONVINCINGLY and then maybe someone can talk about haye having a remote chance.

[DIB42]

I think haye probably loses to Vitali, but i think Haye KTFO of Wlad. Wlad is chinny, more so than Haye, and Haye is in shape and fast, and throws a meaningful punch, can't say that about too many of Wlads opponents.

[Telepath]

What does the Klit bros contractual demands tell you about their confidence in beating him?

The Klit bros have manipulated their opponents before but Haye is not a fool and won't get into that **** they tried to pull.

Fact is your reasoning here is quite silly.

If Haye were to beat Vitali in impressive fashion, he'd be a superstar. If he thinks he can do it, as he clearly boasts by T-shirts with him holding the heads of the K brothers, then he should TAKE THE DAMN FIGHT. FIGHT FOR FREE if he has to!! The K's ARE the recognized champs. Haye is a nobody. If he were to win, imagine what it'd do to his career.

Of course, he knows that's not what's going to happen, so he runs.

[Heeb]

I'd bet my money on Wlad. However, I think there needs to be a more exciting fighter to dethrone the Klitschkos, considering how much America has lost interest in heavyweight division. Haye just isn't the man to do it.

[Wesker115]

I'd bet my money on Wlad. However, I think there needs to be a more exciting fighter to dethrone the Klitschkos, considering how much America has lost interest in heavyweight division. Haye just isn't the man to do it.

Haye is the most exciting HW around imo. The problem he has is that the division has been dominated by giants such as the Klit's and Valuev, a smaller man like Haye is hardly going stand there infront of them and get hit, he's going to be in and out and use his best asset, his speed. So against a giant like Valuev of course he was going to be running all night.
Vlad is a technically good fighter, but Haye has a good chance against him. For all his talk, Haye comes into every fight in excellent condition and has a good trainer. He'll have a game plan for Vlad and has the tools to put him down. Whether he will of course is another story, he has to get past Ruiz first.

[DiLLiNGER]

wlad would murder him.

[Pirao]

Haye is the most exciting HW around imo. The problem he has is that the division has been dominated by giants such as the Klit's and Valuev, a smaller man like Haye is hardly going stand there infront of them and get hit, he's going to be in and out and use his best asset, his speed. So against a giant like Valuev of course he was going to be running all night.
Vlad is a technically good fighter, but Haye has a good chance against him. For all his talk, Haye comes into every fight in excellent condition and has a good trainer. He'll have a game plan for Vlad and has the tools to put him down. Whether he will of course is another story, he has to get past Ruiz first.

Funny, people said the same thing about Chambers, didn't go too well for him. If Haye thinks the Klitschkos are slow, he's in for a rude awakening.

[equaliza]

Haye will KO Vlad, Haye's movement and speed will be too much for him.

I agree Haye, is too crafty for Wlad.