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  • #31
    Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
    Id love to see Manny drop Arum.

    He does not even have to leave Arum. In fact this late his is career I would not recommend it. All it would do is cause legal ramifications and injunctions that would prevent him from fighting at all.

    Manny only has to put his foot down. Fire that clown Top Rank Lawyer of his if he does not cooperate and demand what he wants. He will then get what he wants.

    He simply only has to threaten retirement, the ole Bob will bend.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by wazaa. View Post
      Is that a rhetorical question?

      Lol, In a way yes..

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      • #33
        Originally posted by AddiX View Post
        It's not exploitation, thats how the boxing business has always worked. How do you think GBP has all those guaranteed fight dates on HBO until 2012? They leveraged Oscar and said if you want him you have to give us all these fight dates.

        Top Rank isnt doing anything wrong here, this is just how boxing works. Every fight requires a negotiation process, in which the company and fighters with the most leverage get the most money/set the rules.

        Manny just made an insane amount of money for fighting an easy fight. 65K seats sold is what Arum has done for Manny. I'm sick of people who say Arum is ripping pac off. Pac was nobody before Top Rank took him in and used their leverage to get Manny on HBO, no one even knew who he was before he fought Marco. He than proceeded to fight all the biggest names in boxing and made insanes amount of money.

        People forget Arum is the same guy that did this for Oscar. Of course Oscar makes money off his fighters, hes a business man. But he sure as **** makes them more money than anyone else can.

        Arum takes his time building his fighters more than anyone else. Cotto had a few set backs and Arum waited a long time for him to show he was ready. Guys like Nonito, JuanMa, are on PPV fights because Arum spends money out of his own pocket to make sure they get TV time, it's not like hes making a ton of money off those PPV's.
        This is the best point on here. Green K for you. It is an ignorant mind that thinks Arum is "exploiting" Manny. Manny has made mad money and will continue too. He doesn't need Floyd Mayweather to make money.

        These are the same people who hate owner's in MLB or NFL. They say the owner's are greedy and abusing the players and fans financially. Without owner's there would be no team. Without promoters like Arum fronting the money there would be no boxers.

        Sure Manny could start his own promotional company and self promote but that would cost an enormous amount of money to have a "real" promotional company. Mayweather Promotions is not a real company. They have no fighters, no liscences and have never promoted a show. Floyd is a GBP fighter just like Manny is a Top Rank fighter. Manny would have to hire a huge staff and risk a lot of money, pay health benefits, etc..... in order to self promote himself. Imagine how much time that would take.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by AddiX View Post
          It's not exploitation, thats how the boxing business has always worked. How do you think GBP has all those guaranteed fight dates on HBO until 2012? They leveraged Oscar and said if you want him you have to give us all these fight dates.

          Top Rank isnt doing anything wrong here, this is just how boxing works. Every fight requires a negotiation process, in which the company and fighters with the most leverage get the most money/set the rules.

          Manny just made an insane amount of money for fighting an easy fight. 65K seats sold is what Arum has done for Manny. I'm sick of people who say Arum is ripping pac off. Pac was nobody before Top Rank took him in and used their leverage to get Manny on HBO, no one even knew who he was before he fought Marco. He than proceeded to fight all the biggest names in boxing and made insanes amount of money.

          People forget Arum is the same guy that did this for Oscar. Of course Oscar makes money off his fighters, hes a business man. But he sure as **** makes them more money than anyone else can.

          Arum takes his time building his fighters more than anyone else. Cotto had a few set backs and Arum waited a long time for him to show he was ready. Guys like Nonito, JuanMa, are on PPV fights because Arum spends money out of his own pocket to make sure they get TV time, it's not like hes making a ton of money off those PPV's.
          murad mohammed was manny's promoter when he fought ledwaba, julio, marco, marquez, and morales. He only became part of top rank when he fought morales the second time i believe.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
            Pac fans ducked this thread like crazy. Props to the TS for speaking out on this crap.
            It is a bit strange that no one's smellin' what geezer Arum's cookin, mate!

            Originally posted by FeFist View Post
            This is why I find it funny when Pacquiao fanboys defend Bob Arum because he is associated with Pacquiao and doesn't like Mayweather.

            The guy is a scum bag, it's clear as day why he's putting Pacquiao in with his own fighters. One to keep the money, two to eventually throw Pacquiao to the wolves so he can hype up his new star.

            Really speaking Pacquiao should buy his contract out, there's no need for him to have one now he's in a situation where his name can generate a fight.
            They don't realize it yet. Wait like a year bro.

            Originally posted by imscythe View Post
            Filipino's values too much the "utang na loob" or debt of gratitude that's probably why Manny does not want to cut ties with Arum.
            Yan ang hirap minsan pre! Manny has too much of it and i hope he realizes it. If he wants to stay with TR, at least he stamps his foot down on fights he feels he's just exploited, magpakita sya ng pangil! After all, he's the MAN in TR and he can sway stuff whichever way he wants it

            Originally posted by DC Fight Fan View Post
            This is the best point on here. Green K for you. It is an ignorant mind that thinks Arum is "exploiting" Manny. Manny has made mad money and will continue too. He doesn't need Floyd Mayweather to make money.

            These are the same people who hate owner's in MLB or NFL. They say the owner's are greedy and abusing the players and fans financially. Without owner's there would be no team. Without promoters like Arum fronting the money there would be no boxers.

            Sure Manny could start his own promotional company and self promote but that would cost an enormous amount of money to have a "real" promotional company. Mayweather Promotions is not a real company. They have no fighters, no liscences and have never promoted a show. Floyd is a GBP fighter just like Manny is a Top Rank fighter. Manny would have to hire a huge staff and risk a lot of money, pay health benefits, etc..... in order to self promote himself. Imagine how much time that would take.
            That's your call mate, call it ignorance on my part if you feel like it. Although in the near future, it is possible that Manny will be a STEPPING STONE of an upcoming fighter from Top Rank, and it's not a remote possibility that Manny's gonna be made as one in the expense of another fighter that Top Rank wants to make it big and carry the torch, and when it does happen, your version of ignorance will apply to you wait 2 secs to reload the image

            The fighting pride of the Philippines NEED NOT BE A STEPPING STONE for estranged and up and comer fighters!

            Look at Nacho's view on GBP towards JMM, look what Roach means when he tells he prefer Manny to retire ON TOP!
            Last edited by Tamis!; 03-21-2010, 11:56 AM.

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            • #36
              34 comments.

              530 Views.

              There are like 3 real Pac fans on this site. Sad.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by deanrw View Post
                He does not even have to leave Arum. In fact this late his is career I would not recommend it. All it would do is cause legal ramifications and injunctions that would prevent him from fighting at all.

                Manny only has to put his foot down. Fire that clown Top Rank Lawyer of his if he does not cooperate and demand what he wants. He will then get what he wants.

                He simply only has to threaten retirement, the ole Bob will bend.
                Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                Lol, In a way yes..
                Arum's main purpose is to make alot of money, Pacquiao-Cotto both top rank guys, arum gets a load of money from that fight. 'The EVent', got arum loads of money , dont be suprised to see Pacquiao-Margarito in November, keeping the money within the Top Rank banner

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by JonoYoungP4P View Post
                  Arum's main purpose is to make alot of money, Pacquiao-Cotto both top rank guys, arum gets a load of money from that fight. 'The EVent', got arum loads of money , dont be suprised to see Pacquiao-Margarito in November, keeping the money within the Top Rank banner
                  keep it inhouse lol

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                  • #39
                    Kind of sad that the top fighter in the world doesn't decide who he's fighting for himself.

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                    • #40
                      business really matters

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