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  • Mister Amazing.
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    Thoughts on may - pac after rewatching may hatton

    Just rewatched the Mayweather - Hatton fight
    and from what i saw mayweather didnt really look as impressive as everybody thinks. from what i can gather from peoples posts is that after 2 rounds onward mayweather completely dominated. from what i saw it didnt really look that way at all, hatton seemed to have mayweather a bit of balance and looking a bit uncomfortable for the majority of the fight. Only when hatton started to tire did it seem mayweather started to take control.
    When i watch mayweather fight you'll occaisonly see his opponent open up and throw like a 10 punch combo with mayweather on the ropes doing his shoulder roll thing, and if you rewatch that in slow mo you can see most of those punches dont land. but a judge doesnt see that in slow mo, and in my opinion it looks pretty bad for mayweather when it happens, especially when he doesnt throw back

    I haven't seen the clottey fight but from what i read pac was able to keep up an intense pace for the full 12 rounds ( for those that saw it please correct me if im wrong here) and pac being twice the fighter hatton is i.e able to come foward using angles unlike hatton did, stamina for an intense 12 rounds unlike hatton ( against mayweather at least ) and with more power, im starting to sway toward a pac victory

    before i would've thought mayweather UD for sure but now im not so sure after rewatching the hatton - mayweather fight. if hatton can keep mayweather uncomfortable im sure pacquiao can do an even better job of that as well as doing it for 12 rounds rather than the 6 hatton lasted before tiring.


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    Watch Round 4 and Round 8 and you'll see an incredible display of ring generalship, boxing, counter punching, setting up your punches, feinting, accuracy, placement and everything a boxing fan would appreciate.

    Hatton may have been an overrated monster created by the PBF hype machine to justify the fight, but it shouldn't take away from Floyd's masterful performance that night.

    Watch Rd 4 and Rd 8 again, please. Forget it's PBF. If you are a true fan of the sport, you would enjoy it.

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      #3
      Originally posted by koboy
      Watch Round 4 and Round 8 and you'll see an incredible display of ring generalship, boxing, counter punching, setting up your punches, feinting, accuracy, placement and everything a boxing fan would appreciate.

      Hatton may have been an overrated monster created by the PBF hype machine to justify the fight, but it shouldn't take away from Floyd's masterful performance that night.

      Watch Rd 4 and Rd 8 again, please. Forget it's PBF. If you are a true fan of the sport, you would enjoy it.
      I dont think PBF hyped up Hatton as much as HBO did. Mayweather never said anything good about hatton for at least 5 years prior to that fight. there are threads on here dating from 2004 where mayweather complains of hatton not wanting to fight him.

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      • Clyde Barrow
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        Pac is worlds better than Hatton. No comparison.

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        • Mister Amazing.
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          Originally posted by koboy
          Watch Round 4 and Round 8 and you'll see an incredible display of ring generalship, boxing, counter punching, setting up your punches, feinting, accuracy, placement and everything a boxing fan would appreciate.

          Hatton may have been an overrated monster created by the PBF hype machine to justify the fight, but it shouldn't take away from Floyd's masterful performance that night.

          Watch Rd 4 and Rd 8 again, please. Forget it's PBF. If you are a true fan of the sport, you would enjoy it.
          I do remember round 8 being fuckin brilliant, but i put it down to hatton getting tired and not putting as much effective pressure as before. i'll go watch round 4 again

          I keep changing my mind on this fight cause i'll think of all the reasons why 1 will win and then change my mind when i think about how the other can win.

          in pacs last 4 fights he hasnt really fought anyone slick when coming up to 147
          clottey - punching bag apparently
          Cotto - brilliant win in my opinion, probably his best but i think cotto lacked the swiftness and slickness to give pac trouble.
          Hatton - good win, hatton there to be hit though, never expected him to take him out in that fashion though. impressed me alot with his power there.
          ODLH - to light, not the same oscar mayweather fought. barely did anything.

          boxers like jmm and morales gave pac the most trouble by boxing

          with mayweather and his recent fights hatton is the closest comparison i can make to pac, and from what i could see hatton had him feeling uncomfortable.

          i'll go watch round 4 of that fight again though.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Clyde Barrow
            Pac is worlds better than Hatton. No comparison.
            well thats sorta what im saying? pac is better, and from what i remember hatton had floyd feeling uncomfortable
            but i can see some simularities between hatton and pacquiao, not dead on the same but things like both aggressive, like to put pressure on opponent, like to throw as many punches as possible

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              Originally posted by Mister Amazing.
              I do remember round 8 being fuckin brilliant, but i put it down to hatton getting tired and not putting as much effective pressure as before. i'll go watch round 4 again

              I keep changing my mind on this fight cause i'll think of all the reasons why 1 will win and then change my mind when i think about how the other can win.

              in pacs last 4 fights he hasnt really fought anyone slick when coming up to 147
              clottey - punching bag apparently
              Cotto - brilliant win in my opinion, probably his best but i think cotto lacked the swiftness and slickness to give pac trouble.
              Hatton - good win, hatton there to be hit though, never expected him to take him out in that fashion though. impressed me alot with his power there.
              ODLH - to light, not the same oscar mayweather fought. barely did anything.

              boxers like jmm and morales gave pac the most trouble by boxing

              with mayweather and his recent fights hatton is the closest comparison i can make to pac, and from what i could see hatton had him feeling uncomfortable.

              i'll go watch round 4 of that fight again though.
              "boxers like jmm and morales gave pac the most trouble by boxing"

              well the pac that fought jmm and morales before is not the same pac now. i think he has improved a lot on balance and his right hand.

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                haha look at your avatar...lame

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                • Clyde Barrow
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mister Amazing.
                  well thats sorta what im saying? pac is better, and from what i remember hatton had floyd feeling uncomfortable
                  but i can see some simularities between hatton and pacquiao, not dead on the same but things like both aggressive, like to put pressure on opponent, like to throw as many punches as possible
                  Hatton-PBF was marred by clinches. Hatton lacks the power, speed, and accuracy of Pac. he may have taken 2 rounds in that fight. I don't see PBF stopping Pac either.

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                  • Imhotep
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                    Originally posted by Mister Amazing.
                    Just rewatched the Mayweather - Hatton fight
                    and from what i saw mayweather didnt really look as impressive as everybody thinks. from what i can gather from peoples posts is that after 2 rounds onward mayweather completely dominated. from what i saw it didnt really look that way at all, hatton seemed to have mayweather a bit of balance and looking a bit uncomfortable for the majority of the fight. Only when hatton started to tire did it seem mayweather started to take control.
                    When i watch mayweather fight you'll occaisonly see his opponent open up and throw like a 10 punch combo with mayweather on the ropes doing his shoulder roll thing, and if you rewatch that in slow mo you can see most of those punches dont land. but a judge doesnt see that in slow mo, and in my opinion it looks pretty bad for mayweather when it happens, especially when he doesnt throw back

                    I haven't seen the clottey fight but from what i read pac was able to keep up an intense pace for the full 12 rounds ( for those that saw it please correct me if im wrong here) and pac being twice the fighter hatton is i.e able to come foward using angles unlike hatton did, stamina for an intense 12 rounds unlike hatton ( against mayweather at least ) and with more power, im starting to sway toward a pac victory

                    before i would've thought mayweather UD for sure but now im not so sure after rewatching the hatton - mayweather fight. if hatton can keep mayweather uncomfortable im sure pacquiao can do an even better job of that as well as doing it for 12 rounds rather than the 6 hatton lasted before tiring.


                    thoughts.



                    2 different styles,Hatton likes to hold and shove alot while Pacquiao just comes in and throw fast awkard punches in bunches.Mayweather can Neutralize the punches in bunches by Holding to keep himself from being out worked in the corners.


                    And i noticed in the Cotto fight with Pac that Pac had problems cutting the ring off at times.Floyd has way faster footwork then Cotto.

                    Pac has poor defense and i think that`s one of the many things that`s gonna be his undoing if he fights Floyd.

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