What makes Phillip N'Dou such a bum??

[Sweet Jesus]

no i was never proven wrong you actually never answered me. if someone from a lighter weight division like 135 comes up and fights floyd at 147 but he actually weighs more than floyd on fight night that makes floyd the smaller man. that is essentially what you are saying and it is absolutely ridiculous.

But Marquez wasn't anywhere near Floyd's fight night weight. So, I ask you again, what's your point?

[BoxerDood]

no i was never proven wrong you actually never answered me. if someone from a lighter weight division like 135 comes up and fights floyd at 147 but he actually weighs more than floyd on fight night that makes floyd the smaller man. that is essentially what you are saying and it is absolutely ridiculous.

When did I ever say that? I only countered your statement about Ricky Hatton, because he is arguably bigger than Floyd. I never said that all fighters who move up and weigh more are bigger. And for the record, this RARELY happens so your point wouldn't really apply regardless. Smaller guys usually come in at the limit. But that's besides my point. I was proving you wrong about Hatton and N'Dou. The Impaler pretty much proved that N'Dou is bigger physically and weight wise and you'd be a fool to disagree at this point, so what is your purpose of being on this thread at this point? Trashing Floyd just like every other hater on this board? And your doing a horrible job, because we've countered everything you could possibly come up with, with nothing but facts.

Not every fighter is good enough to face Castillo as their first fight at 135, so your point on resume isn't good either. The bottom line is they were both the same size, and there is absolutely no proof that N'Dou isn't good.

[daggum]

But Marquez wasn't anywhere near Floyd's fight night weight. So, I ask you again, what's your point?

that's your whole premise though. that it doesn't matter what weight a fighter fights at it only matters what he weighs in the ring. so if someone from a smaller weight division comes up 1 or 2 weight classes and outweighs floyd on fight night it's a legit fight? no it doesn't work that way. you don't understand some fighters rely on speed and want to keep their weight down on fight night while others want to pack on the pounds to be stronger. that's obviously what ndou did since he spend his entire career at 130 and knew he was gonna get beat up.

[daggum]

When did I ever say that? I only countered your statement about Ricky Hatton, because he is arguably bigger than Floyd. I never said that all fighters who move up and weigh more are bigger. And for the record, this RARELY happens so your point wouldn't really apply regardless. Smaller guys usually come in at the limit. But that's besides my point. I was proving you wrong about Hatton and N'Dou. The Impaler pretty much proved that N'Dou is bigger physically and weight wise and you'd be a fool to disagree at this point, so what is your purpose of being on this thread at this point? Trashing Floyd just like every other hater on this board? And your doing a horrible job, because we've countered everything you could possibly come up with, with nothing but facts.

your "facts" aren't really boxing related. the fact is ndou spent his entire career at 130. the factis hatton spent his entire career at 140 cept 1 fight. it's why fight night weights don't mean a damn thing. if a guy comes in bigger than floyd it's cause he wants to be bigger and stronger cause he knows floyd has the speed advantage already.

[BoxerDood]

that's your whole premise though. that it doesn't matter what weight a fighter fights at it only matters what he weighs in the ring. so if someone from a smaller weight division comes up 1 or 2 weight classes and outweighs floyd on fight night it's a legit fight? no it doesn't work that way. you don't understand some fighters rely on speed and want to keep their weight down on fight night while others want to pack on the pounds to be stronger. that's obviously what ndou did since he spend his entire career at 130 and knew he was gonna get beat up.

Floyd spent his entire career at the time at 130 too! Again, each only had a handful of fights at 135, and N'Dou is physically bigger based on the facts. So if he's physically bigger, he weighs more and they both fought equally at 135, its a legit fight! END OF STORY.

[Flawless Loc]

Floyd was the bigger man?



Kill yourself!

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Floyd spent his entire career at the time at 130 too! Again, each only had a handful of fights at 135, and N'Dou is physically bigger based on the facts. So if he's physically bigger, he weighs more and they both fought equally at 135, its a legit fight! END OF STORY.

he's a smaller person in boxing terms like i said. he's a 130 pound fighter. aka he's smaller. you can try all the lies you want to try and make out that hatton, marquez, ndou or whoever is bigger than floyd but they aren't.

[BoxerDood]

he's a smaller person in boxing terms like i said. he's a 130 pound fighter. aka he's smaller. you can try all the lies you want to try and make out that hatton, marquez, ndou or whoever is bigger than floyd but they aren't.

But like I said, THEY FOUGHT AT 130 FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME. Just because Floyd kept moving up doesn't mean N'Dou can't too. And he retired one fight later, so whose to say he couldn't move up just as easily, especially with those dimensions?

You have no proof he's smaller. Both fought at 130 for the same amount of time, and then both fought at 135 for the same amount. Your just repeating yourself about how he used to fight at 130. Well guess what? So did Floyd! Please respond with something else, because your "he used to fight at 130" argument has been proven wrong at least 10 replies ago. Both are natural super featherweights. Not just one of them.

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But like I said, THEY FOUGHT AT 130 FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME. Just because Floyd kept moving up doesn't mean N'Dou can't too. And he retired one fight later, so whose to say he couldn't move up just as easily, especially with those dimensions?

You have no proof he's smaller. Both fought at 130 for the same amount of time, and then both fought at 135 for the same amount. Your just repeating yourself about how he used to fight at 130. Well guess what? So did Floyd! Please respond with something else, because your "he used to fight at 130" argument has been proven wrong at least 10 replies ago.

if ndou moved up to 135 then why was floyd fighting someone who was unranked? based on his stellar career at 130? that earns him a lightweight shot? you would think floyd would want to fight someone at lightweight who actually proved they can fight there. oh i guess not.

[BoxerDood]

if ndou moved up to 135 then why was floyd fighting someone who was unranked? based on his stellar career at 130? that earns him a lightweight shot? you would think floyd would want to fight someone at lightweight who actually proved they can fight there. oh i guess not.

Uhhh...Does a prime Jose Luis Castillo ring any bells? Floyd had a very short career at 135, but 50% of his fights there were against top tier opponents (well opponent without the "s", since he fought Castillo twice). Since when does every fight have to be against top tier opponents? I can name like four consecutive fights where Mosley fought bums at WW who got beat up by JWWs. He even wanted to fight Gatti and Baldomir, two guys Floyd gets criticized for fighting.