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 I think you guys have, (especially Tortilla) made your point, with effective trolling techniques using hypotheticals and theories to reach conclusions, as a backlash to some of the mindless "Pac is on steroids 100%, why doesn't he just take the tests", talk going on.
 
 
 However in order to preserve the legacy of this thread, I think you guys should stop at post 1000 even and retire this topic. It's gotten as far as it can.Comment
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 i very much agree with your post bro.Please stop spamming this thread with your hatred rant. We know you're butt-hurt but as a crusader like Froid Jr we're here to clean up the sport of boxing.
 
 *****s will get hurt but this is the stage that we as a crusader just like Froid will be misunderstood. However in the long run **** *****s will understand our goal.
 
 Froid needs to man-up and admit his cheating ways.Comment
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 Why this *****s keep thinking that this is a hate thread, they should be happy that this thread support their "clean the sport crusade".Comment
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 You didnt answer my questions. I guess your logic is flawed then and you are incorrect?Floyd refused to take the OST test, give me a proof that he take the OST test in his 40 fights.
 
 doesn't mean that no one ask or demand the test you can't take the test, it's up to floyd to take the test, for him to choose that he doesn't want to be get tested with an OST means that he decline the test, he should have choose the OST test to prove that he was clean.
 
 But lets go with your flawed logic (even tho you cant answer my questions and have been proved wrong therefore).
 You say that everyone that doesnt take initiative to get extra testing is cheating.
 That would mean you are saying every fighter in the world cheats.
 
 Lets play with the thought that this is true(you said it after all).
 Then Manny Pacquiao, Bernard Hopkins, Floyd Mayweather, Shane Mosley, Nonito Donaire... Every fighter have cheated in every fight so far. That would make it all equal. If everybody cheats, noone has gotten an unfair advantage over another.
 
 Now Floyd previously did it the cheating way(from now on to be called the "manny pacquiao way" for simplicity).
 Now he has seen the light. He has realised that the manny pacquiao way is the wrong way to go. He no longer wants to cheat like every other fighter. Like Manny Pacquiao and his ways of fighting/cheating/training.
 
 Floyd Mayweather JR and Shane Mosley are the ONLY fighters to take the USADA special tests. They are the only two currently clean fighters in the sport.
 Therefore you can say that Floyd and Shane are the cleanest and fairest fighters in the sport. They now have realised their mistakes and no longer wants to walk the manny pacquiao road(roid) of shame.
 
 God bless you Floyd Mayweather and Shane Mosley for being clean and fair fighters. Unlike the others doing it the manny Pacquiao way you are now the only two fighters proven to be clean currently.
 
 LET IT BE KNOWN THAT FLOYD AND SHANE CHANGED THIS SPORT!
 We shall forever sing our praise!
 
 From this equation we get;
 
 Manny Pacquiao = Former and CURRENT cheater. The only one to decline the USADA testing when asked for it. (as you said before pasawayako, if you decline tests you are hiding something)
 
 Floyd Maweather JR = Former cheater. Realised the Manny Pacquiao way was not the way to go. Fights for a fair and clean sport.
 (or we could be rational and realise noone declines to take the USADA if neither fighter, promotion or comission suggests it)Comment
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 read the title of this thread so with this post U OWNED URSELF...You didnt answer my questions. I guess your logic is flawed then and you are incorrect?
 
 But lets go with your flawed logic (even tho you cant answer my questions and have been proved wrong therefore).
 You say that everyone that doesnt take initiative to get extra testing is cheating.
 That would mean you are saying every fighter in the world cheats.
 
 Lets play with the thought that this is true(you said it after all).
 Then Manny Pacquiao, Bernard Hopkins, Floyd Mayweather, Shane Mosley, Nonito Donaire... Every fighter have cheated in every fight so far. That would make it all equal. If everybody cheats, noone has gotten an unfair advantage over another.
 
 Now Floyd previously did it the cheating way(from now on to be called the "manny pacquiao way" for simplicity).
 Now he has seen the light. He has realised that the manny pacquiao way is the wrong way to go. He no longer wants to cheat like every other fighter. Like Manny Pacquiao and his ways of fighting/cheating/training.
 
 Floyd Mayweather JR and Shane Mosley are the ONLY fighters to take the USADA special tests. They are the only two currently clean fighters in the sport.
 Therefore you can say that Floyd and Shane are the cleanest and fairest fighters in the sport. They now have realised their mistakes and no longer wants to walk the manny pacquiao road(roid) of shame.
 
 God bless you Floyd Mayweather and Shane Mosley for being clean and fair fighters. Unlike the others doing it the manny Pacquiao way you are now the only two fighters proven to be clean currently.
 
 LET IT BE KNOWN THAT FLOYD AND SHANE CHANGED THIS SPORT!
 We shall forever sing our praise!
 
 From this equation we get;
 
 Manny Pacquiao = Former and CURRENT cheater. The only one to decline the USADA testing when asked for it. (as you said before pasawayako, if you decline tests you are hiding something)
 
 Floyd Maweather JR = Former cheater. Realised the Manny Pacquiao way was not the way to go. Fights for a fair and clean sport.
 (or we could be rational and realise noone declines to take the USADA if neither fighter, promotion or comission suggests it)Comment
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 No this is using ******* logic. I state this in my post if you care to read it with your tiny eyes.
 Even in the the small section you bolded i state with rational thinking, this is not correct assumptions.
 
 Using logically flawed arguments. Floyd and Shane are the cleanest fighters currently in the sport while Manny Pacquiao has cheated in the past and currently.
 
 Using normal human being logic. Only Pacquiao has every declined a USADA test.Comment
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 again read this...No this is using ******* logic. I state this in my post if you care to read it with your tiny eyes.
 Even in the the small section you bolded i state with rational thinking, this is not correct assumptions.
 
 Using logically flawed arguments. Floyd and Shane are the cleanest fighters currently in the sport while Manny Pacquiao has cheated in the past and currently.
 
 Using normal human being logic. Only Pacquiao has every declined a USADA test.
 For 40 fights, its quite clear this guy used PEDs
 
 and u replied..
 Floyd Maweather JR = Former cheater. Realised the Manny Pacquiao way was not the way to go. Fights for a fair and clean sport.
 (or we could be rational and realise noone declines to take the USADA if neither fighter, promotion or comission suggests it)
 
 meaning this thread made you realised that floyd is really on peds by winning those 40 something fights.. so now u can STFU and try another response to this thread..Comment
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 Can you even read?again read this...
 For 40 fights, its quite clear this guy used PEDs
 
 and u replied..
 Floyd Maweather JR = Former cheater. Realised the Manny Pacquiao way was not the way to go. Fights for a fair and clean sport.
 (or we could be rational and realise noone declines to take the USADA if neither fighter, promotion or comission suggests it)
 
 meaning this thread made you realised that floyd is really on peds by winning those 40 something fights.. so now u can STFU and try another response to this thread..
 I specifically state in my post this is using the flawed logic of this thread.
 And in the section you quote i specifically state ;
 
 (or we could be rational and realise noone declines to take the USADA if neither fighter, promotion or comission suggests it)
 
 Maybe you should ask Micky to cut you. Your eyes is swollen shut.Comment

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