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  • Originally posted by TortillaWarrior View Post
    No doubt.

    Its like an alcoholic calling a crack head an addict.

    With all of his talents, its a shame he had to resort to chemically enhancing his natural gifts.

    But then again, maybe what we see as "natural gifts and talent", is the product of the chemicals.

    He did stop a man at 147, 41 pounds more from 106.
    He did toy with a man who was "20 pounds heavier".


    I'm just more sad that more of his fans haven't come in here to clear his name.
    Same here bro, I was in the impression that Froid talent was god-given but actually it was a talent that came from unnatural source. I'm really saddened by the fact that one of my favorite fighters is a cheater and a certified fraud.

    Sad day for the sport we truly love...
    Last edited by peyk-peyk; 04-13-2010, 10:51 PM.

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    • Originally posted by TortillaWarrior View Post

      If they'll lie about this,

      of course they'll lie about the PED use as well.

      Such a shame to have all that talent,

      but then have to cheat yourself, the sport and the paying fans,

      because you did it unnaturally,

      and lied about it.
      Co-sign bro.

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      • wow, for 99 pages there is no single post that could explain why floyd is clean in his last 40 fights.

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        • Originally posted by pasawayako View Post
          wow, for 99 pages there is no single post that could explain why floyd is clean in his last 40 fights.
          They have been ducking this thread since the start. I have a feeling that they're beginning to see the truth after Ellerbe (Froid's live-in partner) was caught lying about Froid's Xylocaine addiction.

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          • Originally posted by peyk-peyk View Post
            They have been ducking this thread since the start. I have a feeling that they're beginning to see the truth after Ellerbe (Froid's live-in partner) was caught lying about Froid's Xylocaine addiction.
            That could be one of the reasons why they're ducking this thread, maybe they're just ashamed to admit and post it on this thread we are right. They should have at least PM us that they already concede.

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            • Originally posted by pasawayako View Post
              That could be one of the reasons why they're ducking this thread, maybe they're just ashamed to admit and post it on this thread we are right. They should have at least PM us that they already concede.
              Of course they're afraid.

              They don't want to admit they've been living a vicarious lie.

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              • Ellerbe's dumbarse rants just gave ammo to this thread hehehe

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                • Thread Crushed!!

                  The official answers on Xylocaine: Is it illegal in the USA? Is it banned in Boxing? Is it a PED?
                  February 17, 2:11 PMSacramento Fight Sports ExaminerRick Rockwell
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                  What is the official word on Xylocaine? Is it illegal in the United States? Is it banned by boxing or any of the State Athletic Commissions? Why does Floyd Mayweather take it? After contacting the appropriate authoritative en******, I have the answers to these questions and more.


                  US Food and Drug Administration (FDA)

                  Lenny Brown Sacramento, CA “Is Xylocaine approved by the FDA?”

                  I spoke today with a representative from the FDA via their Drug Information line. I asked them if Xylocaine was illegal or banned in this country. The representative said there are no bans on this drug. The representative also said that there would be no reason for individual states to make this drug illegal especially if its FDA approved. However, if this drug is administered by an I.V. or through injections then it must be done under the direct supervision of a licensed medical professional.

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                  World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA)

                  One of the world’s leading authorities on anti-doping, WADA is the primary source for which drugs are banned in sports or athletic competitions worldwide. According to WADA, via GlobalDRO.com, “None of the ingredients in this brand (Xylocaine) are currently included on the WADA Prohibited List”. This means that Xylocaine is not banned by WADA.

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                  US Anti-Doping Agency (USADA)

                  Mandy Craig Sacramento, CA “Does the USADA ban Xylocaine?”

                  The USADA has a Drug Reference line where you can contact them via telephone and specifically ask them about any drug. When I called them yesterday, I spoke directly with their telephone doctor of the day. First, I must say that it was very informative being able to talk to a USADA doctor about this drug and the potential side effects. Anyhow, the doctor said that Xylocaine is legal for boxers to take via injection into the hands. He also said that individual state athletic commissions might have additional stipulations.

                  USADA.org


                  Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC)

                  In a conversation that I had with Keith Kizer, about the use of Xylocaine in the state of Nevada, Keith said that because “It is not a prohibited substance under WADA or USADA”; it’s not banned by the State Athletic Commission. However, Keith Kizer noted that the commission has added some stipulations to the use of Xylocaine.

                  “We don’t want fighters to use it on fight day. We make sure they have full physicals to check for this. They will be told to stop doing this from the weigh-in through the fight. Fighters must only take Tylenol or ice for any pain.”

                  NSAC


                  Conclusion

                  As of February 17th 2010, Xylocaine is not banned according to the FDA, USADA, WADA, and the NSAC. In fact, I can’t find any other State Athletic Commission that bans it either. So, Floyd Mayweather’s use of this drug for his hands is not illegal. And, as long as he doesn’t use it from the weigh-in through fight day, then he won’t get into any trouble. However, this doesn’t mean that this drug is still safe or something that the general public should just go out and acquire.

                  Xylocaine, in most methods of usage, needs to be supervised by a licensed medical professional due to potential serious side effects like an abnormal heartbeat. In addition to potential side effects, there are also some long-term effects like dementia that could be experienced.

                  Regardless of the side effects and the legal use of this drug, it still remains debated whether this drug gives Floyd an advantage or not. It’s clear that there would be an advantage on fight day if he couldn’t experience any pain in his brittle hands but is this drug a real advantage during training?

                  According to BlueCross/Blue Shield – “Performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs) are prescription medications, like anabolic steroids and stimulants, as well as sports supplements and growth hormones that some athletes take to improve their energy, stamina and power while training or competing.”

                  According to The Mayo Clinic – “Performance-enhancing drugs and supplements are used to boost athletic performance, ward off fatigue and enhance physical appearance. They're also taken to increase muscle mass and strength.”


                  Xylocaine might be legal but it remains highly controversial. Does the legal allowance of this drug override the performance enhancements that this drug provides?


                  Although, I think this drug is controversial and a PED, the very fact that it's still legal, according to those who I spoke with, makes me wrong for previously thinking it was illegal. I was misinformed, like a lot of people, when we were told that this drug was illegal. I was wrong, and unlike Floyd Mayweather, I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. If I'm going to hold others accountable then I have to hold myself accountable too. However, If anyone has any other evidence that this drug is banned in "49" states, then please contact me so I can verify it and check with the proper authorities.

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                  • Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya View Post
                    Ellerbe's dumbarse rants just gave ammo to this thread hehehe
                    i agree, ellerbe's latest statement just add more su****ions and make this thread legit. If ellerbe and floyd could lie about the xylocaine which already be known and documented that floyd was using it which is legal to the states where floyd was fighting how much more to the peds/steroids.

                    This is getting interesting......

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                    • Come on *****s, for 100 pages you still got nothing? Calling the attentions of the steroids experts here in BS, froid jr. badly needed your help in this thread.

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