Those of you who believe Pacquiao is using PEDs please enter...

[sigrab]

guilt and innocence are absolutes. What you are talking about is the fact that he has not tested positive under the current testing standards. I really dont want to think that Manny is on anything, He's great to watch and seems to be a genuinely good guy. But there is a lot of circumstantial evidence to the contrary. After the Clottey fight I am actually more worried something strange is going on. Had he knocked Clottey out with fast precise punches it very simply could have been another example of how much he has improved as a boxer, and I think he has. But what he did was very out of character throwing that many punches, with such speed and force the whole night is what made me think, hold on a minute? The main word here is out of character. You dont just join the 1000 punch club overnight. All boxers Ive seen either are high volume or not. Again though it is still just circumstantial.

This is a perfect example of why Pac is really in a no-win situation the moment he was accused of PED use.

People on here were saying that if Pac KOs Clottey, he's definitely on PEDS. Now you're saying that what happened last Saturday was even worse since he was "out of character" and because of his punch output, makes you think that he's onto something. You ppl need to make up your minds.

I guess Pac could have decided to just play peek-a-boo with Clottey instead of trying to initiate the action by throwing punches as much as he could so ppl who went and paid to see the fight would at least get their money's worth.

In any case, Pac has officially been labeled a cheat thanks to arguments such as yours.

[Unbreakable]

95% of people outside of the forums, i mean people in real life don't really buy into this PED bull****! TRUE STORY!

[lesterprettyboy]

PAC is on A Side Meth. Not even bullets can stop him....Its true becoz Floyd Sr said so!!

I really wonder what is the average IQ of these *****s...Lol

[sNiTcH]

its useless to argue with those brainless *****s

[ballgamessuck]

Did too. Did not. Did too. Did not. Did too. Did not. Did too. Did not. That is about as convincing as any argument that I have seen so far on this thread. The thread topic was "what evidence is there that Paq did use something illegal?". The main argument that I have seen for Paq using something illegal is "what evidence do you have that he did not use something illegal?" That is like saying "if you cant prove that you have never killed anyone, then you must be a muderer. How about a cop pulls you over and says, prove to me that you havent broken the speed limit today. You scratch your head and look at him like he is crazy, and he writes you a ticket. Where is the evidence?

[Guest]

I think Pac isn't on Peds but he should get on them, and take some straps at 154,160, and 168 before moving up to take on Dawson at 175.

[ruffles]

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im a ***** ..my ass is bigga than yal..

[Killa Killa]

does anyone remember recently the kenyan runner who said she was a girl but people were su****ious due to her performances? There was no proof that "she" was a "he", but they subjected her to all kinds of tests to make sure "she" was actually a "she". Should she have refused those tests?

What about people who plead the 5th? Sure, it doesnt make them guilty, but it does make you go hmmmmmm................

I remember that...

If it was anyone other than Pacquiao, the industry would be in a fuss...

When you are winning, you are sometimes allowed to bend the rules...

People knew Barry Bonds was on something, but he kept playing, kept hitting homers and breaking records...

It's all about the Moola...

[maverickuk2]

i dont think that manny is on anything but if you refuse the test you set yourself up for suspision, aswell as ariza claiming he has 'special' shakes lol. the only way manny can dissprove his haters is by taking the test.

[flojob]

dumb *****s