Those of you who believe Pacquiao is using PEDs please enter...

[(Fowler)]

Manny Pacquiao just beat Joshua Clottey and people are in this thread arguing about Ped's,Pacquiao,Margarito and Mosley.Everyones beating and bashing each other,but no one has beatin Floyd Mayweather Jr


Just messin around...Take a deep breath it's not like any of us are getting paid to defend these guys my dudez

[Khalid X]

Is this just a bait thread so you can get all the *******s to come in here and talk ****?

I don't believe he uses them but I do have reasons for questioning him.

there is this girl I'm smashing that looks just like the chick in your avi....I mean exactly like her. I would post her ******* pic....but that's kinda foul....lol

[sigrab]

why do you think su****ious means that? it doesn't.

It doesn't to me and to everyone on here with half a brain.

The problem is, look how many posters are calling him Pacroid, a cheat, etc.. and a few sporting a steroid sig with direct reference to Pac.

To those ppl...

su****ious action = guilty verdict.

I guess you're one of those with at least half a brain.

Congratulations.

[freedom213]

You failed to see the point in what I was saying...

Margarito was caught red handed...

Until a Pacquiao blood/urine test comes back positive, he is innocent...

It's plain and basic common sense...

guilt and innocence are absolutes. What you are talking about is the fact that he has not tested positive under the current testing standards. I really dont want to think that Manny is on anything, He's great to watch and seems to be a genuinely good guy. But there is a lot of circumstantial evidence to the contrary. After the Clottey fight I am actually more worried something strange is going on. Had he knocked Clottey out with fast precise punches it very simply could have been another example of how much he has improved as a boxer, and I think he has. But what he did was very out of character throwing that many punches, with such speed and force the whole night is what made me think, hold on a minute? The main word here is out of character. You dont just join the 1000 punch club overnight. All boxers Ive seen either are high volume or not. Again though it is still just circumstantial.

[nelsoncm]

I have heard from two ppl in the boxing industry that they heard rumblings about Pac possibly being on something before Mayweather Sr ever came forward. Both of those guys post on this site and they are credible.

So I conclude 50 million people who believe in a theory makes it an absolute truth and makes a man guilty unless proven innocent.

[OnePunch]

does anyone remember recently the kenyan runner who said she was a girl but people were su****ious due to her performances? There was no proof that "she" was a "he", but they subjected her to all kinds of tests to make sure "she" was actually a "she". Should she have refused those tests?

What about people who plead the 5th? Sure, it doesnt make them guilty, but it does make you go hmmmmmm................

[nj_evoixgsr]

guilt and innocence are absolutes. What you are talking about is the fact that he has not tested positive under the current testing standards. I really dont want to think that Manny is on anything, He's great to watch and seems to be a genuinely good guy. But there is a lot of circumstantial evidence to the contrary. After the Clottey fight I am actually more worried something strange is going on. Had he knocked Clottey out with fast precise punches it very simply could have been another example of how much he has improved as a boxer, and I think he has. But what he did was very out of character throwing that many punches, with such speed and force the whole night is what made me think, hold on a minute? The main word here is out of character. You dont just join the 1000 punch club overnight. All boxers Ive seen either are high volume or not. Again though it is still just circumstantial.

so a man that has had stamina versus a guy that is punching back or a guy that is standing there like a punching bag and it's out of character? now your over thinking and making PED stories take over your judgement.

FACT: PAC IS IN THE TOP 15 RICHEST PERSON in the filipines.
FACT: In the filipines you really don't need to be that rich to BE RICH AND POWERFUL.
FACT: NOT ONCE WAS HE PROVEN even the minimalistic on PEDS
dude before said "highly credible" people made statements prior to mayweather sr.......i smell ****
FACT: PAC is an idiot for letting it get this far. he should have taken the 14 day window.



now with all you smart pbf fans out there........in what time frame does PEDs make a difference in performance. ie: if he starts peds say 20 days before the fight if the cut off was day 21 what is the absolute possible gain? minus the fact of having to make sure it is flushed out your system knowing you'll be taking a blood test directly after the fight?


very minimal GAIN very HUGE RISK << like any other boxer especially MAYWEATHER understand that. so why the hell would pac risk it if it was a 21-24day cut off? put a 21 day cut off and if he test positive SLAM him with a HUGE 10million fine. just like the ridiculous 10mil per lb over the agreed weight. problem solved.

[crossybossy]

can peoples tell my why amir khan doesn't get this ish when its been stated as a FACT that him a pac share the same training supplements...

please.

[Vasyl’s dad]

guilt and innocence are absolutes. What you are talking about is the fact that he has not tested positive under the current testing standards. I really dont want to think that Manny is on anything, He's great to watch and seems to be a genuinely good guy. But there is a lot of circumstantial evidence to the contrary. After the Clottey fight I am actually more worried something strange is going on. Had he knocked Clottey out with fast precise punches it very simply could have been another example of how much he has improved as a boxer, and I think he has. But what he did was very out of character throwing that many punches, with such speed and force the whole night is what made me think, hold on a minute? The main word here is out of character. You dont just join the 1000 punch club overnight. All boxers Ive seen either are high volume or not. Again though it is still just circumstantial.

I invite you to join my thread then, since you say there is alot of circumstantial evidence in Mannys case. As a matter of fact, I invite many of you to partake in what we're finding out about Floyd and "circumstantial evidence".

You might be surprised.


http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=367230

[Castor_Troy]

Why do you think hes innocent?

1. Because he has shown great power, speed and stamina ever since he turned pro

2. He has always taken care of his body. He stays in shape between fights.

3. He trains harder that any athlete in the world all throughout his career he never changed. He's still a machine That's why his body has adjusted to his hard work.

4. He never tested positive for any illegal substance.

5. He recently hired Nutritional experst in helping him put more weight and keep his attributes. and it can be Scientifically proven.

6. He has stable psychological behavior.

7. He's almost always Happy. His temper controlled most of the times.

8. He's weight gain is very gradual.

9. Doesn't have acne

10. Have no connection whatsoever to su****ious company or organization such as Balco.