Do roids improve Boxing technique?

[BTL]

Here is an analogy.


JJ red**** is one of the hardest worker in the league. He practice on d, shooting, work out on his strength and it shows this season with the magic on how much he improve. Now was his hard work enough to be better than some of these lazy ass players who don't even try to improve and playing off their natural ability(Like lamar odom).

gifted athletic ability+hardwork+ability to learn+motivation+x=pacquaio x=0 equal not on peds x>0 equals using peds.

You using red**** of all people.. How about Barry bonds?

[fabie]

Techniques can be honed without roids....it is both mental and physical combined towards a sequence of movements while having the consciousness and the internal directness to call upon on given situations.

'Roids are external supplements that can make our bodies be resistant towards fatigue, pain and longevity in stamina being the most obvious.

What is 'roids' direct relationship with techniques?

Directly, none. But the resultant effect is due to prolonged stamina.

And so one who "bad" pure techniques to begin with will not improve but only towards their mechanical efficiency due to repetition. Therefore TECHNIQUES are as much mental AND physical because it is the application of "proper" usage of body angles, distance, specific movements and etc.

With regards to Pacquiao, stamina has always been one of his attributes. Being a "machine gunner" that he is, he would always be one. Pacquiao's work method and discipline are also noted together with his trainer Freddie Roach and pseudo-scientific diet/exercise regimen from Ariza taken from a Jeet Kune Do nutrionist friend.

I will not rule out the usage of steroids here but with the grueling workout and diet, I am also not surprised that Pacquiao and his team achieved something marvelous. We have seen the same with Olympian Michael Phelps and Cyclist Lance Armstrong.

The thing is that how good can an athlete be?

They are pushing the very limits of their minds and bodies and it is easy or rather convenient to say that they are "roiding" to begin with but we can stop and learn more about their regimen, diets and all.

This isn't 18th century anymore....we are in an age of information while again not ruling out the usage of illegal drugs (much to speculation) but we also have improved the way we think and use of our minds and bodies.

I think that the best approach is not to be cynical about it but to be optimistic that we can indeed be that good. But Pacquiao is much more than a physical specimen. Much like Phelps and Armstrong, they are also talented.

Techniques are important but it is only one of the major components of an athlete. Their insatiable desire to be indomitably in their best, their visions, their heart, their sacrifices...to mention a few are far more important attributes than just techniques.

Just as a musician or an artist, techniques can be learned, de-learned (if there is such a term)...they're dime a dozen if you will. What makes an artist or a musician are their presence, their existential stamp of their willingly participate, express, explore their hearts' desires...inspired.

We can indeed compare the athlete into these creative types. It is the usage of the body much like a dancer or a ballerina. And to coordinate ultra complex movements, synchronized, with power and grace.

I maybe too optimistic one might say...but in my book STEROIDS cannot make techniques...let alone an athlete.

My humble take on the issue. Peace!

[fabie]

Sorry for much of my typos and grammatical errors...no time to edit and correct them.

[supRa]

look man, diaz was basically a freakin punchin bag 4 pacquiao!

any shot he threw diaz eat it up, its been a while since i seen this fight and wow manny did 1 hell of a job!!

theres a diffrence between a david diaz to his other opponets he aint no amrquez no cotto oscar (tecqnical level) yea sure they got stopped but god damn manny was landin ever right hook @ diaz lol

so do i think pacquiao 'cheatin'? maybe its crossed my mind but am takin pacquaios word!

[Boxing Scene]

If you do not know how to write will you not get better if you practice? And will you not, all other things equal, get better at writing than another person who doesn't practice?

It's quite simple really since roids enables you to practice more.

Agree?

Absolutely not. ROIDS don't enable you to do anything. So you're saying I take steroids I automatically am able to practice more.

BULL****.

Steroids are for building muscle. PERIOD.

[Boxin']

Steroids don't give you stamina at all, they just make you stronger, pure and simple. Roids have nothing to do with keeping your speed, making your chin better or give you more stamina.

speed, skills, chin, stamina > strength

They let you train through injuries though...

[PAKYO]

Steroids don't give you stamina at all, they just make you stronger, pure and simple. Roids have nothing to do with keeping your speed, making your chin better or give you more stamina.

speed, skills, chin, stamina > strength

They let you train through injuries though...

True, i know this one boxer who got bloodied in the nose and almost broke all his bones in his fingers but he still went on and on just like those annoying clapping rabbit on a battery commercial...

I was even wondering how he felt no pain, 'twas really interesting to watch until someone let me on the secret.

He also said he is the greatest even without proving it.

[Boxin']

True, i know this one boxer who got bloodied in the nose and almost broke all his bones in his fingers but he still went on and on just like those annoying clapping rabbit on a battery commercial...

I was even wondering how he felt no pain, 'twas really interesting to watch until someone let me on the secret.

He also said he is the greatest even without proving it.

That's called heart.

Steroids don't make your chin better. You don't feel less pain when you are on roids either.

[IMDAZED]

Steroids don't give you stamina at all, they just make you stronger, pure and simple. Roids have nothing to do with keeping your speed, making your chin better or give you more stamina.

speed, skills, chin, stamina > strength

They let you train through injuries though...

That's false. There are performance enhancers for speed, for blow resistance, vision, reflexes, stamina, even vision.

Try again.

[IMDAZED]

I'll also add that most people use PEDs in training because it benefits them there. Wanna add an extra thousand sit ups to your regimen? They help you train more...lots more. And that will help you with EVERYTHING you're working on.