Paulie Interview on Pac and Steroids

[Hallaqsillaq]

He could probably be using something that increases his level of oxygen retention in the blood greatly, kind of like the Tour de France cheaters.

But a guy who isn't willing to take a test to prove he is clean on the pretense of pride or ego is well, just plain 'ol BS. I would have taken the damn test and beat the piss out of Floyd for being a loudmouth, not doing it for the myriad BS excuses given just stinks of fish.

I used to be in excellent condition, both aerobically and through strength training, I could exert myself above what others around me could not, and people wondered, but I worked my ass off every day.

However, I have never seen a fighter get a second wind like that in a fight and keep throwing bomb after bomb, untiring, undiminished...

[Boxin']

overtraining can occur when youre not getting enough rest or training more than your calorie intake.

Paulie, is, an idiot

Overtraining occurs when you train to much.

start training 5 hours a day with plenty of food and rest and i guarantee you'll get overtrained.

(this post has nothing to do with Pacquiao)

[sunny31]

He could probably be using something that increases his level of oxygen retention in the blood greatly, kind of like the Tour de France cheaters.

But a guy who isn't willing to take a test to prove he is clean on the pretense of pride or ego is well, just plain 'ol BS. I would have taken the damn test and beat the piss out of Floyd for being a loudmouth, not doing it for the myriad BS excuses given just stinks of fish.

I used to be in excellent condition, both aerobically and through strength training, I could exert myself above what others around me could not, and people wondered, but I worked my ass off every day.

However, I have never seen a fighter get a second wind like that in a fight and keep throwing bomb after bomb, untiring, undiminished...

Yeah I used the word steriod in the thread title just as a universal word for performance enhancing drugs. I know very little about most performance enhancing drugs, in fact I have only started reading about them recently basically because of curiosity of this whole situation, and there are many things out there now that I believe would be beneficial to boxers. But I have kept my discussion on purely a boxing stand point because like I said it is not my area of expertise, fact is the clottey performance over everything else he has done so far is the most su****ious to me, for the reasons I previously stated.

[Amazinger]

Look I know paulie talks a lot of ****, and to be honest I haven't spoken much on the whole steriod issue one way or another, because I really don't know what to think. But Paulie was making a lot of sense in the interview at the khan presser. Talking about pac's performance against clottey I like most people thought pacquiao's workrate was astonishing, but not unrealistic because we have seen other fighters do it, micky ward, joe calzaghe just to name a couple.

But Paulie made some pretty interesting observations, first he picked up on the fact that so many of pac's punches had almost everything behind them, a lot of fighters with great workrate in the past, a lot of the mexican guys for example throw a lot of sequential and fluent combinations in the pocket, but not huge power in each shot, normally there 1 or 2 power punches mixed in the combination here and there. But manny is litterally for a lot of that fight loading up and hammering power shots to the body and head, over and over, resetting and then over again. This leads me to the next point paulie talked about, the issue of overtraining was mentioned which has always been at the back of my mind, im surprised manny has never overtrained for any of his fights, especially when he was struggling to make weight. Look trust me when I tell you I am a huge fan and there is nothing that would please me more than to know for sure manny was clean, but I just re-watched the pac-clottey fight and I can kind of see what paulie is talking about.

If he was using, how deep do you guys think the problem is? How long? Who in the team or at the wild card would know about it in your opinions?

Poor Paulie he just want to be spoken with the same breath as Manny,Floyd and Mosley but he's not on the same category as those three...And the poor kid will get KO'd by a young upcoming which he never heard of.....