Why Valero (serious)

[1toTHADOME]

Valero should be the last option.

Mayweather-Mosley winner
Bradley
Alexander
Williams
Quintana-Berto winner
Valero

agreed........

[jrosales13]

It would be exciting to watch but what does it do for Pacs legacy? Nothing at all IMO.

There are several better fights out there.

Valero would make it fun but he would get destroyed.

Burner the only better fights for legacy is Bradley at 140 or Foreman at 154 if he can't get the winner of Floyd-Shane. Alexander does nothing right now. He is not ready and has zero chance of winning as of right now. Valero would at least have a puncher chance. And, a record to bring in money and fans. 100% KO ratio. Quintana really does nothing right now either for his legacy and proves nothing. Berto on the other hand if he wins would be a better option since he would be a top 5 maybe as high as top 3 WW and be undefeated plus would take the whole Pac has never fought an African American fighter bull**** out of the way...

So the Valero fight at 140 is not as bad as you making it out to be. Now if it is higher than 140 I would be pissed to but at 140 is not that bad especially if Valero stops Peterson. That would put Valero in the top 10 arguably in the top 5 at 140.

Plus Burner also you think Pac is a real WW who would not be smart to go down to 140 cuz he would lose muscle weight. And, if you really believe that then you should like this fight even more since Pac YOU personally would think Pac would be drained at 140 and really weakened and if that is the case then he might be in a whole a lot of trouble at 140.

[Fiasco]

Burner the only better fights for legacy is Bradley at 140 or Foreman at 154 if he can't get the winner of Floyd-Shane.

Williams would also be a good opponent, at 147 or a catch-weight around 150. I think he said he would be able to make 147 again.

[B-Money]

before pac fights valero (if ever the mayweather fight fails), i think valero should first fight bradley to proove his worth at 140.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Burner the only better fights for legacy is Bradley at 140 or Foreman at 154 if he can't get the winner of Floyd-Shane. Alexander does nothing right now. He is not ready and has zero chance of winning as of right now. Valero would at least have a puncher chance. And, a record to bring in money and fans. 100% KO ratio. Quintana really does nothing right now either for his legacy and proves nothing. Berto on the other hand if he wins would be a better option since he would be a top 5 maybe as high as top 3 WW and be undefeated plus would take the whole Pac has never fought an African American fighter bull**** out of the way...

So the Valero fight at 140 is not as bad as you making it out to be. Now if it is higher than 140 I would be pissed to but at 140 is not that bad especially if Valero stops Peterson. That would put Valero in the top 10 arguably in the top 5 at 140.

Plus Burner also you think Pac is a real WW who would not be smart to go down to 140 cuz he would lose muscle weight. And, if you really believe that then you should like this fight even more since Pac YOU personally would think Pac would be drained at 140 and really weakened and if that is the case then he might be in a whole a lot of trouble at 140.

The Berto-Quintana winner is the WW WBC Champ. That doesn't help his legacy?

Bradley is the WBO Champ and the Number 1 JWW. That helps his legacy.

Alexander is the WBC and IBF JWW Champ. That helps his legacy.

Mayweather-Mosley winner- Nuff Said

Paul Williams- Nuff said


Why would Valero beating Peterson a guy Bradley just waxed make him a Top 10 or even Top 5 JWW? Then on the top of that why Valero over Alexander and Bradley? The styles? Can Pac beat all 3 sure. But why fight the green Brawler? Who hasnt done anything at 140? This is a cherrypick. There are much better fights out there.

[jrosales13]

Williams would also be a good opponent, at 147 or a catch-weight around 150. I think he said he would be able to make 147 again.

I would love the Williams fight. And, I think Williams can make 147. The problem with P-Will is that if he does not make 1 weight-class home. Then gives other fighters excuses for not fighting him. He should go down to 147 try to fight the IBF champ and make that his home. And, not give all these fighters excuses for not fighting him.

[Jim Jeffries]

The Berto-Quintana winner is the WW WBC Champ. That doesn't help his legacy?

Bradley is the WBO Champ and the Number 1 JWW. That helps his legacy.

Alexander is the WBC and IBF JWW Champ. That helps his legacy.

Mayweather-Mosley winner- Nuff Said

Paul Williams- Nuff said


Why would Valero beating Peterson a guy Bradley just waxed make him a Top 10 or even Top 5 JWW? Then on the top of that why Valero over Alexander and Bradley? The styles? Can Pac beat all 3 sure. But why fight the green Brawler? Who hasnt done anything at 140? This is a cherrypick. There are much better fights out there.

Valero knocking out a guy that was competitive with Bradley early and survived 12 rounds. Not impressive to you in the slightest?

There might be better fights out there, but after Clottey, Pac needs an EXCITING one. Enter Valero.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Valero knocking out a guy that was competitive with Bradley early and survived 12 rounds. Not impressive to you in the slightest?

There might be better fights out there, but after Clottey, Pac needs an EXCITING one. Enter Valero.

Bro if you ever seen Valero fight you should fully expect him to KO Peterson. Thast his style. Bradley is a boxer. Whats impressive is Valero beating Bradley or Alexander then hed have a case for Pac and Im a HUGE Valero fan but right now Pac is too much for him.

Berto, Quintana, Bradley, Alexander, Williams, Mosley and Mayweather fight NOTHING like Clottey. No excuses this is a cherrypick.

[jrosales13]

The Berto-Quintana winner is the WW WBC Champ. That doesn't help his legacy?

Bradley is the WBO Champ and the Number 1 JWW. That helps his legacy.

Alexander is the WBC and IBF JWW Champ. That helps his legacy.

Mayweather-Mosley winner- Nuff Said

Paul Williams- Nuff said


Why would Valero beating Peterson a guy Bradley just waxed make him a Top 10 or even Top 5 JWW? Then on the top of that why Valero over Alexander and Bradley? The styles? Can Pac beat all 3 sure. But why fight the green Brawler? Who hasnt done anything at 140? This is a cherrypick. There are much better fights out there.

Quintana would not do nothing for his legacy even if he has a title it won't do it. Plus he has had trouble making 147 and has been talking about going up in weight to 154. Quintana does not doing especially getting destroyed by Cotto and Williams. He just doesn't do it.

Berto does but he has to win. I give you that.

Bradley does, I said he does but Alexander doesn't. He has a paper title but Pac is the lineal champ. Alexander really doesn't do much for his legacy at all not at this stage Bradley does.

If Valero stops Peterson you would see him ranked in the top 5 at JWW. You will see that. And, how you might ask? The same reason he is ranked #1 at LW...

Of course the winner does.

I would even take the loser of the Floyd-Shane fight over Valero...

If Williams doens't go down for at least 1 fight at 147 then his name will never be in the mix

But, the Valero fight is not as bad as you making it out to be.

And, again if YOU trully feel that Pac is a true WW and can not make 140 cuz he would lose muscle weight then YOU should think this is a very very very dangerous for Pac

[jrosales13]

Bro if you ever seen Valero fight you should fully expect him to KO Peterson. Thast his style. Bradley is a boxer. Whats impressive is Valero beating Bradley or Alexander then hed have a case for Pac and Im a HUGE Valero fan but right now Pac is too much for him.

Berto, Quintana, Bradley, Alexander, Williams, Mosley and Mayweather fight NOTHING like Clottey. No excuses this is a cherrypick.

Burner if I am not mistaken but didn't you say Valero would beat Alexander?