"Been on a decline due to its own results,"- Frank Mir

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  • 1toTHADOME
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    "Been on a decline due to its own results,"- Frank Mir

    UFC 111 headliners Dan Hardy and Frank Mir said they still support the sweet science, but its hiccups are wearing them thin.

    "I've always been a huge fan of boxing ... but as far as what boxing's doing, I think it's no statement to say that it's been on a decline due to its own results, and also the fact of what the UFC is now," Mir today told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) in a conference call promoting his interim-title fight with Shane Carwin on March 27.

    Hardy said he watched the Pacquiao fight in a sports bar and was not happy with what he saw.

    "I've always been a huge fan of boxing, and I'm very selective about what boxers I watch and what fights I watch," said Hardy, who fights welterweight champion Georges St-Pierre at UFC 111. "I would say unfortunately, 50 or 60 percent of the time I've watched a boxing match that I've been looking forward to, I kind of feel like I've been robbed of 45 minutes of my life."

    The UFC welterweight contender said the boxing ring allows fighters to hide and avoid the fight. But he also put the blame on Clottey for refusing to engage.

    "Clottey didn't really want to fight Pacquiao," he said. "He didn't come to win. It was kind of like my fight with (Akihiro) Gono, my first fight in the UFC. The guy didn't come to win, and they're not my kind of fighters.

    "I like guys that don't mind taking a risk and putting their neck on the line – just (for) the adrenaline rush for that fight. Unfortunately, there aren't that many boxers out there who will do that now. I think that's why MMA is coming up so fast – because people need to see that intensity in the fight that I think boxing's losing."

    Mir said boxing's decline has forced the sport to put together substandard match-ups because there are few bankable stars in its divisions.

    "They're trying to move guys into different weight classes to make superfights," he said. "There's really no weight division that has anything going on in it. If you look at boxing as far as (the) mainstream, I think you're hard pressed now to even ask people who's in the heavyweight division in boxing, which has always been one of the premier weight classes for the sport of boxing.

    "Right now, if it wasn't for the two or three superstars that they have in their sport willing to fight each other – even through they're not in the same weight class – I don't think you'd have any boxing matches going on whatsoever."



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  • ThePunchingBag
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    #2
    He's right to some degree, but ignorant in others.

    There will always be a new superstar after another has faded.

    Alexander, P.Will, Bradley, Khan, Gamboa, Rigondeaux, Lopez, and many others are ready to take up the mantle.

    What's killing Boxing is greedy promoters who rather put on several decent cards than one awesome super card.

    Who rather hold fights in Vegas than in Stadiums like the one in Dallas.

    Who rather make a few more pennies than invest in the sport of boxing by putting on the best show possible.

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    • Earl-Hickey
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      #3
      He actually makes some good points, but it's nothing we haven't been saying as fans for years, the good fights take too long to get made, theres too much ducking, too many world titles, too many weight classes.

      UFC does well because it's a concentrated product, Dana White is a good promoter, every fight in the UFC, leads to the next, there aren't many "random fights" like we get in boxing.

      In the UFC, you keep winning you keep climbing the ladder, in boxing you keep winning you get ducked.

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      • Heru
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        #4
        Was this the same guy that was on Manny's **** after the Cotto fight? Talking about how he tries to copy Pacquiao's style?

        These *******s should stop talking about boxing, period. Then these mmgay fans ask why we hate on mmgay. Both of these guys can suck a ****.

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        • 1toTHADOME
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          #5
          mma/ufc results even reach a million ppv sales yet?

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          • I'd rather box
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            #6
            Whatever points Mir and Hardy made about boxing, the same things can be said about MMA.

            As if MMA hasn't had its share of snoozers. BJ Penn vs GSP was suppose to be a fight for the ages, what happened ???

            The only thing UFC has over boxing is that it's able to put on a stack card. But, If y'all look at it a lil deeper, are those cards really stack ??

            I mean, I don't remember a time when GSP and BJ Penn fought different opponents on the same PPV. They just do a good job of hyping up fighters who are in reality, mediocre !! I can only take so much of Joe Stevenson, Jens Pulver and a plethora of others, lmao That to me is not a stacked card !!

            The only reason for those "stacked cards" is because UFC is sitting at the top of the food chain. Unlike boxing, where you have several promoters who in some ways have an equal share of the pie.

            MMA has the same problems putting on superfights just like boxing due to fighters belonging to different promotional outfits, ie Fedor vs Brock, we all saw how great the negotiatons went with that one.
            Last edited by I'd rather box; 03-16-2010, 05:37 PM.

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            • RSBonos
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              #7
              LOL at two of the most overrated MMA fighters criticizing anyone, let alone a whole sport.

              They are just shilling for the UFC, its part of their contract to put down boxing and pretend that Fedor isn't the toughest mofo in MMA.

              Both these guys would be nowhere without the empty hype of the UFC brand name, if they fought for any other MMA promotion they couldn't sell any PPVs.

              Dan Hardy is the same douche who constantly has made it his crusade to put down boxing and boxers like Froch and Calzaghe who have never even heard of the bum. Mir is a big boxing fan and a *******, he is just towing the company line.

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              • flexxx145
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                #8
                Frank Mir got beaten by a MMA rookie like Brock for the title. I think Mir should shut up and concentrate on not getting pounded out by Brock lol!

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                • keepthemhandsup
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                  i aggre that i too am feeling like im getting robbed 45 minutes of my life watching a fight that anit **** and it's too many of em. and that nobody don't want to take risk and want to move up weight classes they're not suppose to be in

                  i don't aggre that it isn't a division that anit worth watching...their will always be a divison that has a primer class...just gotta look outside the HW'S and WW's

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                  • CubanGuyNYC
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                    Mir and Hardy are speaking for a lot of people. I have to agree with much of what they said in the article. "Scientific" fighters are a part of the sport, but some guys just play it too safe. Boxing, like all sports, is also entertainment. It's not entertaining to watch a guy who shows up to safely collect a paycheck and not even try to win. In MMA the fighters have little choice but to engage, otherwise they just get pummeled. Like Hardy said, it's easier to avoid a war in boxing. But I believe that boxing will always have some superstars that'll come along and "save" it.
                    Last edited by CubanGuyNYC; 03-16-2010, 05:43 PM.

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