***Okay Pacman... what werent u on?!?!?!?

[indystress]

first off... im a student, teacher, and fan of the game... and what im about to say are just my opinions... but

compare the pictures of pac... fighting against cotto... then fighting against clottey... and pac sure doesnt look as defined and ripped as the cotto fight... agreed?

IF HE IS JUICING...

maybe since everyone was "keeping an eye on him" with this whole ped mess about him... he couldnt take the sufficent amount to make him as big as the cotto fight... let me stop there

im not saying hes taking peds... but just go compare the pictures... he was def not taking the same type of supplements for the clottey fight as the cottos..

at the end of the clottey fight... pac looked like he shrunk back to a lightweight...

so im not asking pac what the hell hes on... im asking what he WASNT on in the clottey fight that he was in the cotto fight...

(i apologize ahead of time for not putting any pics up... i dont know how to)

if it looked like to you that pac wasnt on what ever it was against cotto...and yet beat clottey the way he beat delahoya and cotto...then i guess with or with PED, pac had beaten these guy the same way.

[Hannibal Barca]

He trained in the Philippines for the Cotto fight so I guess he got a tan . I suppose that made him appear more defined.

Cotto



Clottey

Don't even try. Regardless of what you post, whether it makes sense or not, you'll be bashed.

No, Pac wasn't as defined in the Clottey fight. There could be a number of reasons why, but if you look at the photos and the weigh in's of both fights, you'll see the difference.

[indystress]

also let me add...that pacq wasnt flexing and posing as he normally do...but yah, those to pics of pac standing next to clottey and the other next to cotto...pac looked the same size

[rao007]

Don't even try. Regardless of what you post, whether it makes sense or not, you'll be bashed.

No, Pac wasn't as defined in the Clottey fight. There could be a number of reasons why, but if you look at the photos and the weigh in's of both fights, you'll see the difference.

I don't see a difference not like what the TS is suggesting...all I know is Cotto has some ****ty defense and cannot handle volume punchers.

[Xyei]

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God damn, what a ****** thread. He looks the same.

[Seleção No. 13]

Pacquiao's shot!!! Past his prime. Look how fat he got.

[IBox85]

to the people that r quick to say stfu and this that and the third... i cant hear ya...

but thanks to the people that gave some opinions about lighting and stuff... i can believe that....

some people r quick to think im a pac hater... thats not what i am... im just an individual that voices my opinions... but people comming at me everytime i put something on nsb is really discouraging... thats y i stay on t&n for the most part...

anyways... ive also mentioned how at the end of both fights... pac looked so much smaller in the clottey fight as well compared to the cottos... obviously hes thrown a lot more punches in the clottey fight... but he looked bout 10-15 lbs lighter... is this just another optical illusion on my behalf... still up for debate... thanks

[rao007]

to the people that r quick to say stfu and this that and the third... i cant hear ya...

but thanks to the people that gave some opinions about lighting and stuff... i can believe that....

some people r quick to think im a pac hater... thats not what i am... im just an individual that voices my opinions... but people comming at me everytime i put something on nsb is really discouraging... thats y i stay on t&n for the most part...

anyways... ive also mentioned how at the end of both fights... pac looked so much smaller in the clottey fight as well compared to the cottos... obviously hes thrown a lot more punches in the clottey fight... but he looked bout 10-15 lbs lighter... is this just another optical illusion on my behalf... still up for debate... thanks

I don't know---that would mean Pacquiao was 160-165 during his fight with Cotto and he didn't even appear to look bigger than Cotto.

[Gutz]

More Proof that *****s are ******ed..

+ shows you how *****s are fooking up this site..

[Daim]

Since there's tons of troll haters on this forum, I am not going to waste my time with you, I'm just going to paste one of my earlier posts which seem to fit perfect on the 37th Pac Hate thread made today:

Talking all that crap that you know the sport and you don't know ****. I guess you've never seen a fast relentless dynamic volume puncher like Pac, oh I forgot there is none. Most volume punchers don't possess the same explosive power and blinding handspeed as Pac. I guess you never seen Paul Williams as the modern example of this, a damn 6'2 middle weight with a whooping 82" reach, who can throw 1,200 punches per fight without tiring.

Get in your head dumb ass, Pac is at an optimal weight at the moment for his frame, he does not need to starve before fights like most welters have to because the average welter height is 5'8 or 5'9 and most of these guys have trouble making weight, for the execptions of a gym rat like a Mayweather and Mosley who walk around the same weight class they fight in, giving a healthier edge to the better prepared fighter, which on every case will be Pacquiao until he fights Floyd.

Also remember Pac always have that edge, he's a punching machine who does not tires, couple that with blinding speed, dinamyte footwork and great chin. Most people that know boxing unlike you, know for a fact if a little guy can keep his extraordinary attributes while moving up in weight effectively most of the times will have an edge in skill compared to the bigger already established fighter, Roberto Duran is the best example.

Another fact little troll, Ariza jumped on the bandwagon for the Diaz fight, Pacquiao had extraordinary attributes that could make a boxer into a future world champion way before that(see his fight against Ledwaba), blinding speed, great chin, and his legendary stamina was on full display when he shocked the boxing world for the first time against Barrera.

So tell me now troll if you read everything, what makes you think that Manny was made by Ariza and some PEDs? Oh I forgot the raging thought of Floyd's dark stick in your mouth is what made you think about that. I bet you have not been following your boyfriend's career as long as real boxing fans have done.

Go back to watching baseball or some bull**** like that, cause this sport is for men, not whiny little bitches who discredit the best offensive fighter of our era cause they love the best defensive fighter of our era.