Comments Thread For: Manny Still the King: BoxingScene’s Pound for Pound Top 10

[Iceta Lives]

I think Hopkins should be far from the top ten right now and if JMM fights a pointless rematch with Juan Diaz he should be dropped too. Calderon should be replaced by Devon Alexander. I know Alexander's resume for a guy in his position isn't super deep. But Corley, Witter, and Urango is just almost as good as having Witter, Cherry, Holt and Petersen along with the fact that he became the first guy to knock Urango out cold. Calderon has looked old in his last few fights.

I want to put Adamek in the top ten. But how ****** would it be to have him there and then be forced to put Arreola in there once he beat him? That's why I'm against having undersized Heavyweights and Cruserweights in there.

Oh, and I knew people would have a problem with Paul Williams being where he is. But name me something that's more impressive than beating Quintana, Margarito, Phillips, Wright, and Martinez that Hopkins, Floyd, or Shane have done within that time frame. Pavlik and Margarito are just two guys. And the JMM win for Floyd isn't that impressive.

[crold1]

I think Hopkins should be far from the top ten right now and if JMM fights a pointless rematch with Juan Diaz he should be dropped too. Calderon should be replaced by Devon Alexander. I know Alexander's resume for a guy in his position isn't super deep. But Corley, Witter, and Urango is just almost as good as having Witter, Cherry, Holt and Petersen along with the fact that he became the first guy to knock Urango out cold. Calderon has looked old in his last few fights.

I want to put Adamek in the top ten. But how ****** would it be to have him there and then be forced to put Arreola in there once he beat him? That's why I'm against having undersized Heavyweights and Cruserweights in there.

Oh, and I knew people would have a problem with Paul Williams being where he is. But name me something that's more impressive than beating Quintana, Margarito, Phillips, Wright, and Martinez that Hopkins, Floyd, or Shane have done within that time frame. Pavlik and Margarito are just two guys. And the JMM win for Floyd isn't that impressive.

IF Adamek were in, and Arreola won, why on Earth would that earn Arreola a slot. It would prove Adamek can't hang with better heavies, not that Arreola is one of the ten best in the game. I don't think there's a Heavyweight who belongs in the top 30 right now who didn't use to fight at Cruiser and both of those are fringe at that number given the rest of the talent in the game.

I sort of agree on Hopkins and Calderon but I'm giving each an extra second because of how good they HAVE been. Calderon could bump quick. Anselmo Moreno isn't listed but he's another fighter earning consideration.

[Jim Jeffries]

IF Adamek were in, and Arreola won, why on Earth would that earn Arreola a slot. It would prove Adamek can't hang with better heavies, not that Arreola is one of the ten best in the game. I don't think there's a Heavyweight who belongs in the top 30 right now who didn't use to fight at Cruiser and both of those are fringe at that number given the rest of the talent in the game.

I sort of agree on Hopkins and Calderon but I'm giving each an extra second because of how good they HAVE been. Calderon could bump quick. Anselmo Moreno isn't listed but he's another fighter earning consideration.

How could you bump Calderon because he last fought in September, but not Mosley, who last fought in January?

[crold1]

How could you bump Calderon because he last fought in September, but not Mosley, who last fought in January?

I didn't and it wouldn't be for time if I did. It's getting a LONG way from the Cazares fights with nothing great on tap. He needs a real fight.

[prsi]

You fail to see what PBF is doing. He wants to make sure the sport is clean and why not pick on a guy that is like Maguire in baseball. Out of no where Maguire is crushing homeruns, that doesn't happen with an average player towards the end of their career. Manny all of a sudden (which is all hype, Cotto was the only challenge, DLH & Hatton were washed up) is beating bigger guys with ease when he was average at a lower weight class. Another example is Shane Mosley, he was using steroids and it was NEVER detected. So I don't blame Floyd for what he's doing, but Manny sure looks suspect right now. I'd rather get beatup for $25 million than $6mill all day...u say ego I say hmmm

I wish it was that PBF want's to clean the sport, but if that was the case why did he not demand these test his whole career or at least from JMM which was his last opponent??
If that was the case he should start by cleaning his corner because it has been well known that his corner have been drug users.
What you fail to see is that, Pacquiao is willing to submit himself to the most severe drug testing in the sport, urine test every day until the fight, Blood test ever monthe before the along with one 24 days before the fight and a blood test as soon as he comes out of the ring on fight night.
Show me a sport that has better blood testing than that!!!!
Is it possible for a drug to go undetected under these circumstance????

I do not agree with Pacquiao stands either and if i would have to choose who's ego is avoiding this fight, I would say Pacquiao's becasue he doesn't want to concede to PBF last moment demand, but at the same time if i would have to pick who is afraid to face the other, i would say PBF because, he made up this blood testing issue after both parts had agreed to the original conditions.