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"Clottey Doesnt Have The Cojones" - Clotteys Trainer Lenny De Jesus

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  • #21
    I have to agree with who said it is pathetic. I am thinking to what Emmaunel said, where you have to think, "this is MY ring" and TAKE it from your opponent, and also, when Lennox Lewis said, this is your chance, show up in shape- I think some of the blame needs to go to Arum and Top Rank.

    Seriously, this **** is disgusting. You are on the world stage, with millions watching you- and you coast by, doing the bare minimum? How many contenders would have gone for broke, and went all out trying to knock the other guy out? But they would never choose someone like that for the attraction to face. What is it about some fighters that it's enough to get the paycheck and a cut of the gate?

    On another note, I think the boxingscene forum regulars need to start a white collar boxing club on the side. Lets make it happen.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
      Tipical ******* who dont know ****!

      Lenny has been around boxing for 40 years. He has work with lots of champs.

      And he wasnt fire because he didnt do is jo well. After that Muhammad guy that use to promote Pac he switch promoters and they wanted their own People. hence why Chavez got the job and then Diaz!!!
      Are you defending DeJesus just because he's Puerto Rican?lol

      Lenny was a nobody.
      He was just an unknown cutman .
      Who gives a **** if he's been in boxing for 40 years when nobody knows who the **** he is.

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      • #23
        Obviously.

        When your trainer is getting interviewed in the middle of the ****ing fight and he's saying he doesn't understand why his fighter won't listen and thinks he's scared of the opponent's power, it's a sad, sad thing.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by vErDuGo View Post
          Are you defending DeJesus just because he's Puerto Rican?lol

          Lenny was a nobody.
          He was just an unknown cutman .
          Who gives a **** if he's been in boxing for 40 years when nobody knows who the **** he is.
          Your just a ******* Ill leave it at that. Theres no way of talking boxing with you fools

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          • #25
            Originally posted by vErDuGo View Post
            Are you defending DeJesus just because he's Puerto Rican?lol

            Lenny was a nobody.
            He was just an unknown cutman .
            Who gives a **** if he's been in boxing for 40 years when nobody knows who the **** he is.
            lenny de jesus is not a nobody. he's been in boxing for 40 years as a cutman for world champs and a trainer for up and coming fighters. he's probably one of the best, if not the best cutman in the business.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Jakutindi Wauya View Post
              It's not easy working with a new trainer in the biggest fight of your career.We also need to factor that in
              I did and I said that before the fight but its also clear that Clottey is Clottey. He's just going to stay in that shell until you stop punching but Pac wont stop if you dont force him to

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              • #27
                Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post
                Good find Ch@mp. Clottey was a huge disappointment. He calls people names but then puts on a performance like this. Nope, unacceptable.


                Clottey lost alot of respect from me. I don't know which is worse Ortiz quitting or Clottey not showing up....
                nice sig.......and i like non white fighters with blond hair (mostly japanese fighters).........

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                • #28
                  Clottey made Roach look like a fool. Stick to training Freddie.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
                    "He had no courage" Lenny De Jesus

                    Written by Rey Colon, Special Envoy Sunday March 14,


                    TEXAS - More than defeated, the Puerto Rican coach Lenny De Jesus face reflected frustration that Joshua Clottey did not meet the agreed plans to face Manny Pacquiao, he strictly got imited to remain upright for 12 rounds and so to show up Freddie Roach.

                    He had no balls, in spanish, No te tuvo los cojones, De jesus said. The training that was given was terrific but changed when Pacquiao began to throw lots of punches. He was honest with me and said 'Lenny I didnt wanted to give Roach the satisfaction of Pacquiao stopping me in the fight. I wanted to last the 12 rounds. "That's what he told me later in the clubhouse. I would have liked to have taken this fight to Wilfredo Gómez to teach Clottey how a real man fight. Gomez was a real man," revealed the Ponceño trainer.

                    Between rounds, De Jesus was trying to convince Clottey to be more aggressive but the African refused to follow those instructions and has apparently opted to make his own game plan.

                    "I told him he had to throw more punches, be creative and open up a bit to throw his own. But you saw, got stuck. No shot. He lost all the rounds. He wanted to last the 12 rounds. I could not put to fight for it. And he did not heed what he explained. He knew and I said it, did not want to open the guard. He threw two or three right uppercuts and not let go. The left stagnant, "he said.

                    The 160 pounds that Clottey weighted in the fight did not affect him or his performance.

                    "No, that was no factor. This weight is perfect. Maybe he got into his mind or which was to last twelve rounds to not give the satisfaction to Roach. I wasnt with that mentality. He didnt want to take the chance because most WW's have big power. The little man won, the big one didnt do what was expected.

                    De Jesus said that following the fight and above the ring, Pacquiao admitted that he came to feel the force of Clottey.

                    "Manny came up to me and said, Lenny, he hit me several times. He thanked me and I him and I think I will be given the opportunity to work with him. I told him in the ring. I will consider for the next fight, "settlement.


                    http://www.vocero.com/index.php?opti...oxeo&Itemid=24

                    Now that is unprecedented (for me at least).

                    A boxer not following the fightplan and wouldn't even try to be at his fighting best JUST TO DISS an opposing fighter's foulmouth prediction???

                    Man Clottey's a nice guy but this is just plain disrespect! Don't wanna join any wagon here but if that's his mentality he shouldn't box at all!

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                    • #30
                      IMO, it would have been better for Clottey to have lost via KO but fought it out rather than lose via decision because he refused to mix it up prefering to hide behind his defense. Who would want to choose him as a future opponent and have the public have that impression of a boring, all defense opponent? As I said in another thread, this is boxing, not hide and seek.

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