If the Mayweathers or Paulie never accused Manny would u still think he is on PEDs?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Without proper testing there will never be any proof.

What testing did Jones, Vargas and Toney do?

[cixthree]

Hence, floyd sr should have just shut his mouth...
If he wants to prove that manny is taking anything illegal, then it's up to him to prove manny's guilt...

Manny doesn't need to prove anything because he has never tested positive for any illegal substance....

Legally speaking, floyd sr and anyone who accused manny of taking steroids pretty much dug their own grave...

Dude don't be a drone. Let me ask u this "What shocked u more, Sr accusing or Manny refusing?"
I know I won't get an honest answer, just like Pac fans that lie about the question "what if it were Floyd refusing testing, would u accept that?"

Do u honestly think a gag order, 75k suit will stop people from thinking Manny is juicing? Nanny should have just agreed but he ducked it. Now this shyt storm is his fault

[SonOfCuba]

no one ever associated Pacquiao with steroids untill Floyd Sr and Jr started accusing him, so NO no one would think that regardless of what they say. I lost all respect for Floyd; a fighter that I always admired and told people for years would beat Pacquiao if they ever fought, now I hope to opposite happens.

[oaba09]

Dude don't be a drone. Let me ask u this "What shocked u more, Sr accusing or Manny refusing?"
I know I won't get an honest answer, just like Pac fans that lie about the question "what if it were Floyd refusing testing, would u accept that?"

Do u honestly think a gag order, 75k suit will stop people from thinking Manny is juicing? Nanny should have just agreed but he ducked it. Now this shyt storm is his fault

Read my posts...I never said that I agree w/ pac refusing...I simply said that Manny doesn't need to do anything to prove that he's innocent since he has never been proven guilty in the 1st place...

While I would have preferred that he agreed w/ the testing, I can't really blame him for refusing....

I tend to avoid being too cynical so I try to look at everything as good rather than look at everything as evil......If the testing commission is not requiring blood tests then manny can refuse it anytime he wants...

Legally, manny doesn't need to prove his innocence but floyd sr and anyone else who accused manny needs to prove that manny is guilty...

I'm simply talking legalities here...

[1toTHADOME]

why is this thread being avoided from those who actually believed them? you guys are pathetic and sad. smh

[FeFist]

I don't believe he's on steroids though I'm pretty sure a lot of people would think something is suspect.

My pops for example thought something was suspect with Pacquiao, he also thought something was suspect with Margarito straight after the Cotto fight, is su****ious of Chavez ( granted he has retired).

What people need to understand is that people from an older generation don't realise how influential things like conditioning and diet are in the modern game. They're going to find it suspect when someone goes into round 12 like they went into round 1. After taking punches and putting out a high work rate.

That's understandable in my opinion. My gut feeling is that Pacquiao is clean but it wouldn't surprise me if any pro athlete at the highest level got exposed for doping. There's simply too much money involved to be 100% certain.

[Pacquiao'd]

Accusations w/o proof is probably one of the ******est things that someone can do especially if we're talking about legalities...If you don't have a solid medical proof, it's better to just shut your mouth or risk getting sued....Just proves how crazy floyd sr is....

there was no proof on shane and marion jones...shush

[disolly]

What do you expect? Low IQ's of course.

yep and i am confident no floyd fans would be accusing him if floyd sr had never said anything, they can pretend like they would be, but the would lying. i never once saw a thread or post on here about manny using roids or any performance enhancers before sr opened his mouth. and people on here say some pretty crazy *****. so that goes to tell you.

[$partacus]

It wasn't the accusations that made people think he's on something, it's the lame excuses so he could avoid the OST and walk away from massive money.

[oaba09]

there was no proof on shane and marion jones...shush

Understand the context of my posts before replying...