Cotto earned his money, ODH,Hatton and clottey did not.

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  • Mr. Philadel
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    #41
    Originally posted by The Weebler II
    TS does a dis-service to Cotto coming out with this crap

    Only guy I take issue with for his performance v Pac was ODLH, because he quit but then he had 5 guys screaming in his face telling him to quit

    Clottey did his best, every time he opened up he got rained on.
    funny but true

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      #42
      Originally posted by RiZОOM
      the difference is clottey would have given himself a better chance if he fought differently.

      hatton could not no matter what he did.
      You don't know what would have happened, and niether do I.

      Had Hatton boxed, used the jab, stook and moved maybe he would have done much better. Had he not tried to steamroll Pac I think he definitely would have been better off, but I don't know what would have happened I can only I say "if" and "I think."

      Just like had Clottey opened up more would he have done better? Neither of us know. Maybe he would have been caught with a punch and ended up like Hatton. So it wouldn't have been better for him. Maybe it would of and he could have won. Who knows. All we know is what he did.

      Hatton fought his style and lost.
      Clottey fought his style and lost.

      Had they both fought differently, maybe the outcome would have been different. But they both fought the same way they always fight.

      Moral of the story is...my point was just as valid as yours.

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        #43
        So because Cotto, Hatton and De la Hoya got destroyed they deserved a pay check ?

        Clottey was more competitive than all those fighters above and he was able to last the distance, he was never hurt once. Clottey deserved his pay check, he came to win, he simply didn't have the workrate/stamina to do so.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Precision
          So because Cotto, Hatton and De la Hoya got destroyed they deserved a pay check ?

          Clottey was more competitive than all those fighters above and he was able to last the distance, he was never hurt once. Clottey deserved his pay check, he came to win, he simply didn't have the workrate/stamina to do so.
          He didn't come to win, he came to go 12 rounds with Pacquiao and not get Ko'd.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Dorian
            He didn't come to win, he came to go 12 rounds with Pacquiao and not get Ko'd.
            Clottey did what he does in every fight, he came to win.

            Pacquiao simply had too much speed and stamina for him.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Precision
              So because Cotto, Hatton and De la Hoya got destroyed they deserved a pay check ?

              Clottey was more competitive than all those fighters above and he was able to last the distance, he was never hurt once. Clottey deserved his pay check, he came to win, he simply didn't have the workrate/stamina to do so.

              What? I would LOVE to know how he was more competitive than Cotto. I mean, I don't even see how that can even be argued.

              Clottey lost every round by a landslide. Because he didn't get hurt or KD'd he was more competitive? That makes zero sense, the guy threw 30 punches a round.

              There were rounds where Cotto landed more punches than Clottey's average punch output per round.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Precision
                Clottey did what he does in every fight, he came to win.

                Pacquiao simply had too much speed and stamina for him.
                If he wanted to win, he would have stepped it up when he knew he already lost a decision and needed a K.O.

                He didn't come to win, he came to survive 12 rounds and he sadly achieved that cowardly game plan.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by savorduhflavor
                  What? I would LOVE to know how he was more competitive than Cotto. I mean, I don't even see how that can even be argued.

                  Clottey lost every round by a landslide. Because he didn't get hurt or KD'd he was more competitive? That makes zero sense, the guy threw 30 punches a round.

                  There were rounds where Cotto landed more punches than Clottey's average punch output per round.
                  Cotto took a beating. Pacquiao rearranged his face.

                  Clottey simply got outworked. Clottey normally throws 30 punches a round, thats how he fights.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Dorian
                    If he wanted to win, he would have stepped it up when he knew he already lost a decision and needed a K.O.

                    He didn't come to win, he came to survive 12 rounds and he sadly achieved that cowardly game plan.
                    Clottey doesn't have the stamina to do so, after his fights with Margarito and Cotto it's surprising people still don't get it.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Precision
                      Cotto took a beating. Pacquiao rearranged his face.

                      Clottey simply got outworked. Clottey normally throws 30 punches a round, thats how he fights.
                      No he doesn't. He doesn't have a high workrate, but he doesn't have that low of an output.

                      It's totally regardless how much of a beatdown Cotto got. Cotto was at one point in the fight. Clottey was not. Cotto was competitive, engaging, Clottey was not.

                      Damage does not equate to "doing better". Clottey did horrible.

                      You think Cotto got beat worse by Margarito than Pavlik did by Hopkins? Sure Cotto got stopped, but he was competitive.

                      I'd rather get stopped in a close fight than lose every round. Granted Cotto/Pac wasn't close, but the first half of the fight was HIGHLY competitive...more than you can say about the Clottey fight which at no point was remotely competitive.

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