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floyd - was great as a young fighter and as a 33 year old
oscar - was a standout amateur and great all throughout his career, getting worse as he got older
tito - great as a young fighter, improved steadily, great prime, got worse as he got older. (past 30)
roy jones - great amateur, great early pro career, great fighter in his prime
holyfield - great young fighter, great prime.
manny pacquiao - ok early career. some bad losses. 2 draws. good power in <130lb divisions. in his prime he loses to morales. then all of a sudden, this good title holder becomes extraordinary.... how does this happen? some guy who loses at 130 to erik morales at the tail end of his career, moves up to welterweight and beats de la hoya, miguel cotto, josh clottey and hatton at 140. it just does not make any logical sense. id like if somebody could explain with examples of past fighters how between age 28-31 you can get soooooooo much better and your power can go up so much and your punch output can go from about 100 at 130 to 140 per round at 147.
- yes i agree manny is the first fighter to accomplish many things. however, look to recent sporting achievements for similar athletes. barry bonds, mark mcguire, marion jones, tim montgomery, etc. a random titleholder is not the greatest figher in the world. ariza's docs are simply too smart for boxing commission testing.
- only logical arguments please.
oscar - was a standout amateur and great all throughout his career, getting worse as he got older
tito - great as a young fighter, improved steadily, great prime, got worse as he got older. (past 30)
roy jones - great amateur, great early pro career, great fighter in his prime
holyfield - great young fighter, great prime.
manny pacquiao - ok early career. some bad losses. 2 draws. good power in <130lb divisions. in his prime he loses to morales. then all of a sudden, this good title holder becomes extraordinary.... how does this happen? some guy who loses at 130 to erik morales at the tail end of his career, moves up to welterweight and beats de la hoya, miguel cotto, josh clottey and hatton at 140. it just does not make any logical sense. id like if somebody could explain with examples of past fighters how between age 28-31 you can get soooooooo much better and your power can go up so much and your punch output can go from about 100 at 130 to 140 per round at 147.
- yes i agree manny is the first fighter to accomplish many things. however, look to recent sporting achievements for similar athletes. barry bonds, mark mcguire, marion jones, tim montgomery, etc. a random titleholder is not the greatest figher in the world. ariza's docs are simply too smart for boxing commission testing.
- only logical arguments please.
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