Comments Thread For: Pacquiao May Give Away Ten Pounds To Bigger Clottey

[Dave Rado]

He can be slightly biased but if people are going to complain loads then don't read them, for example I don't even bother reading the Michael Marley articles from examiner that Lady Fan always posts.

I stopped reading his articles months ago because they're so devotional, but I find it amusing to scan them sometimes, just looking for key phrases like "Filipino icon and P4P king", "there are no more superlatives to describe him", "fighter of the decade", "his charming wife Jinkee", and so on; and to read the threads for some of the articles. I never read them for actual content any more.

The fact is, a reputable journalistic website like boxingscene should be hosting more objective articles than that, it's bad journalism, and there's a kind of morbid fascination in scanning an article on a reputable website that so totally lacks any objectivity. It would be okay in the forum section, but this is the news section, where one expects proper journalism, not propaganda.

I have a similar beef with some of Lyle's articles about Mayweather, but at least Lyle writes about other topics pretty well, whereas Ronnie is pretty much a one-track horse.

[Jim Jeffries]

Is outweighing Pacquiao an advantage? He will be so much faster!

Clottey didn't seem to have any trouble with Judah's speed or southpaw stance.

If weight is not an advantage, why do we have different classes?

[Pullcounter]

Is outweighing Pacquiao an advantage? He will be so much faster!

yes, it is an advantage... but if you're gonna outweigh him, go for broke and get as big as possible so you can take his punches better... don't try and starve yourself so you will be quicker, that's ******.

[Dave Rado]

If weight is not an advantage, why do we have different classes?

Weight classes are based on the official weigh in weight (where they weighed more or less the same), not the fight night weight.

It's debatable whether someone ballooning in weight on the day of the fight gives them any advantage. If it means they had to badly dehydrate themselves in order to make weight, it could give them a big disadvantage.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

I stopped reading his articles months ago because they're so devotional, but I find it amusing to scan them sometimes, just looking for key phrases like "Filipino icon and P4P king", "there are no more superlatives to describe him", "fighter of the decade", "his charming wife Jinkee", and so on; and to read the threads for some of the articles. I never read them for actual content any more.

The fact is, a reputable journalistic website like boxingscene should be hosting more objective articles than that, it's bad journalism, and there's a kind of morbid fascination in scanning an article on a reputable website that so totally lacks any objectivity. It would be okay in the forum section, but this is the news section, where one expects proper journalism, not propaganda.

I have a similar beef with some of Lyle's articles about Mayweather, but at least Lyle writes about other topics pretty well, whereas Ronnie is pretty much a one-track horse.

Agree!

[Jim Jeffries]

Weight classes are based on the official weigh in weight (where they weighed more or less the same), not the fight night weight.

It's debatable whether someone ballooning in weight on the day of the fight gives them any advantage. If it means they had to badly dehydrate themselves in order to make weight, it could give them a big disadvantage.

Well I don't think it's an accident that the fight in which Paul Williams ballooned up the most on fight night 146 3/4 to 165, is the only one he lost.

But I also think that most fighters (below HW) gaining 6 to 9% of their body weight back after the weigh in must be of some advantage, or they wouldn't do it.

[Dave Rado]

Well I don't think it's an accident that the fight in which Paul Williams ballooned up the most on fight night 146 3/4 to 165, is the only one he lost.

But I also think that most fighters (below HW) gaining 6 to 9% of their body weight back after the weigh in must be of some advantage, or they wouldn't do it.

They clearly must think it is, or, as you say, they wouldn't do it. It's debatable whether they're right, though. And they don't all do it. Mayweather doesn't, and has never been any the worse for that. And against Cotto, Pac's speed advantage more than made up for his weight disadvantage - and if he'd tried to bulk up more, he would almost certainly have slowed down.

Bottom line, to say that the fighter with the greater fight night weight automatically has an advantage is way too simplistic. Boxing is much more complicated than that.