I hate to rain on Pac's parade, but..................

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  • Iceta Lives
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    #41
    Like I said, Clottey's only chance to win this fight is to cut Pac over his eye. Pac has always fought with heart and tenacity. But if a bad cut opens over his eye where he can't see, it isn't like he's Arturo Gatti or Rocky Marciano in that regard of being able to fight through adversity. In fact, I think Pac may have stood a better chance of beating Morales in the first fight if he hadn't have got cut. And JMM was tagging the **** out of him in that eight round of the second fight because he was getting flustered of seeing his own blood.

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    • Tmann400
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      #42
      Originally posted by Iceta Lives
      Corrales landed more punches than Clottey in that fight. Why do people consider it out of the realm of possibility that someone like Valero could beat him? Valero has the same kind of power that Corrales had while being a southpaw to boot, and he's never been hurt from what we've seen. And his style is real similar to Pac's when Pac was younger.
      Dude....your just not making sense...corrales was landing pitty pat punches. every shot clottey landed, corrales looked like his head was going to fall off. And valero was nhurt..and 130 i belive by a journeyman. either way even if he hadnt. your talking about a fighter coming all the way from lightweight and having only been there for a couple of fights all the way to welterweight to face a world level fighter like clottey. thats crazy. **** valero's style that wont evenb matter when hed be facing someone two divisions above him.

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      • Iceta Lives
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        #43
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        Did you see the Mosquera fight? And, Valero is too open and we don't know yet that Valero can carry his power to 147 he is unproven above 135. I am sorry but P4P Clottey is a better fighter than Demarco and when we talking about it at 147? Come on now? And, Valero might even lose some speed going up in weight. We don't know how he will carry the weight. To say he will beat a top 5 WW is absurd IMO.
        But even if what you're saying is true you don't believe that he could possibly be a tougher fight for Pac than Clottey is based on styles?

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        • Pullcounter
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          #44
          Originally posted by Iceta Lives
          Here are fighters in and around 147 who I think could beat Clottey and would be a tougher challenge to Pac.
          I'll even start with the 140 lbers.
          Bradley
          Alexander
          Possibly even JMM if Clottey couldn't hurt him and I'd even go as far as Valero.
          Mosley and Mayweather are obvious.
          Cotto and Margarito already did.
          I know they are 154 lbers, but still:
          I'd slightly favor Angulo over Clottey.
          Martinez
          Williams
          Clottey-Cintron is 50/50
          I don't know too much about Dzinziruk's style.
          And even the gatekeepers at 147 like Quintana, Collazo, and Berto would be even money with Clottey.

          If Pac beats Clottey is it all that impressive to you? I mean, for a guy who comes in at 160-170 on fight night sure doesn't punch like it.
          the doctor must've dropped you on your head when you were born cause no one is this ******ed by nature

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            #45
            Originally posted by Iceta Lives
            But even if what you're saying is true you don't believe that he could possibly be a tougher fight for Pac than Clottey is based on styles?
            No i do not. valero would get brutalized. pacquiao's size and skills are too much. i see upset potential tomorrow night. i think people are sleeping on clottey because subxonxiously since he isnt a big name and everone is on the pacman hype train that clottey is like some bum. he is going to have quite a size advantage over pacquiao tomorrow night. and clottey's skills are very underrated.

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            • jrosales13
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              #46
              Originally posted by Iceta Lives
              But even if what you're saying is true you don't believe that he could possibly be a tougher fight for Pac than Clottey is based on styles?
              Based on styles at 147 Pac destroys Valero in 3 rounds... Clottey is more competitive at 147 against Pac then what Valero will be...

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              • Roxas
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                #47
                Originally posted by Roy O'Bannon
                Clottey is an elite WW.

                He's the definition of world class.

                no way....he lost to cheato and a shot Cotto

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                  #48
                  this ni99a said valero and jmm could beat clottey...you lost all credibility there

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                  • The Great Shark
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                    #49
                    Cotto didn't destroy Clottey.

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                    • Tmann400
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by The Great Shark
                      Cotto didn't destroy Clottey.
                      Lol. nope, cotto just got beat up.

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