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Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
Name the 6-7 guys that are better than Harris it 140? Humor me please...
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Well, Corrales had said (in a ********** interview) that he wanted to make a tune-up or something to that extent because he'd fought many "hard" fights in a row. That's straight from the horse's mouth, BTW.Originally posted by spinksjinx
As for wanting to fight those guys, I'm sure he says it just for the money. I'm going to quote Duggie here, he can call out anyone he wants, as I call out Halle Berry, but I still haven't gotten in her pants no matter how many times I've called her out.
As for Chico fighting Morales, I think Morales is waaaay too small to fight at 135; he'd get killed. He'd do best to stay at 130. I think Chico would win that fight by KO.
As for Vivian, he's probably #4 in the division behind PBF, Tszyu, and Hatton (giving him props for taking on KZ). He might be slightly ahead of Cotto but fighting a bum on HBO PPV on the Gatti-PBF undercard isn't doing much for him, either. He's fighting Mausa, a guy Cotto already beat and who is coming off a loss. I'm sure there were better guys available. People like N'Dou, Witter, Holt. Vivian lost respect from me for taking this bum on.Comment
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Really, like who?Originally posted by spinksjinx
DeMarcus Corley
Phillip N'dou
Jose Luis Castillo
and Diego Corrales
The only reason everyone is giving him so much credit is because he is an American.
Joe Calzaghe is not even recognized anywhere for being a Super MiddleWeight King with a record of 39-0-0 (31KO).
But is Jeff Lacy gets a hold of the division, all of a sudden it will be the next big thing.
So for Tszyu, a Russian born and living in Australia and being numbered as a 2-4 on Most P4P lists that's already something while Mayweather is ranked 1-2.
If Tszyu and Mayweather were to swap resumes, Mayweather would still be a 1-2 (Mayweather/Hopkins) But Tszyu would probably not even be in the top 5.Comment
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hmm
Don't get smart, gringo. This is easy for anyone to see. This is coming from a Harris fan. He has potential, "BUT"...
This is arguable to a certain extent, but looking at what Harris has literally done, you cannot clearly place him above the following:Name the 6-7 guys that are better than Harris it 140? Humor me please...
1) Kostya Tszyu
2) Floyd Mayweather
3) Ricky Hatton
4) Lovermore N-dou
5) Junior Witter
6) Arturo Gatti
7) Miguel Cotto
8) Demarcus Corley
It's close...but anyone who says Harris is number 2 in this weight class, is...well, a fool.Comment
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Originally posted by vdiary
JLC x2
Corrales
Corley
C. Hernandez
Augustus
G. Hernandez
N'Dou
Chavez
Manfredy
Pretty good resume...Comment
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if Calzaghe truely wants to be the king he will stop ****in around and actualy fight lacy, his record is a beefedup one anyways it means nothing.Comment
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hmm
Don't get silly up in here. Joe C. is recognized as the best at 168, but he has been lacking in recent years in opposition, and seems to never fight due to injuries.The only reason everyone is giving him so much credit is because he is an American.
Lacy WILL be the next big thing if hebeats Joe C., and rightfully so.
Tszyu does NOT get ranked above Floyd by many because Tszyu is BIGGER. It's really a quite simple concept to understand. If Tszyu was doing what he is doing now, except at middleweight, he would easily be ranked number one p4p. Floyd started at 130 and could still make 130 probably. Floyd just got to 140 so don't disrespect his opposition there yet. N'dou was a decent fighter and Corley is top 10. So is Gatti. He wants to work his way up at 140 but everyone knows he wants Tszyu. Why should he go right up to a new weight class and fight Tszyu first though? That'd be ******.
You cannot swap Tszyu and Floyd's resumes becuase Floyd used to fight in a lower weightclass. Tszyu would never have been small eough to fight those guys anyway.Comment
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Both champions at 168 are ******* agreed?
Witter
Hatton
N'dou
Gatti
Above Vivian noway?Comment
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Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
I whole heartedly agree that saying he's number 2 in the div. is insane, but I think he's done just as much as any other guy at 140 (outside of Tszyu) and should be at least in the top 4-5 guys in the division. Beating Urkal twice and Hurtado is just about as impressive as most. Lovemore N'Dou is a battle-tested beast but he hasn't done anything except look good losing to people. Witter hasn't done anything to be put in front of Harris except lose to Judah and win a very close decision over N'Dou. Corley is another guy who has only lost to top guys and has lost twice recently.
In terms of the best guys in the division, for my money they're ranked:
Mayweather, Tszyu, Cotto, Harris, Hatton...
Tszyu is the #1 guy in the div though and rightfully should be. Floyd is next and the other 3 are all about tied in my book.Comment
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who's vivan? isnt he the guy who got beat up by ray ray O?Comment
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