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  • Chief2ndzOnly!
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    #111
    Originally posted by Dave Rado
    That's rubbish, for two reasons. First, he says he's fighting Judah next, who is not even rated at 140. Second, because unifications always take priority over mandatories, under the alphabet's rules, provided they are given reasonable notice.

    That's probably too much information for you to comprehend in an entire day, so I'll stop there.
    That's not completely true Dave. You are right Zab's not ranked at 140 and rightfully so he hasn't fought at 140 in damn near 7 years. But the WBC, WBA, WBO, and IBF have been known in the past to have a few pissing contests in regards to letting fighters unify rather than facing that particular sanctioning body's mandatory Clottey is a prime example of when these pissing contests take place. He got the IBF off of Zab(vacant) but couldn't take it with him to the Cotto fight.

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    • Sweet Jesus
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      #112
      Originally posted by Chief2ndzOnly!
      That's not completely true Dave. You are right Zab's not ranked at 140 and rightfully so he hasn't fought at 140 in damn near 7 years. But the WBC, WBA, WBO, and IBF have been known in the past to have a few pissing contests in regards to letting fighters unify rather than facing that particular sanctioning body's mandatory Clottey is a prime example of when these pissing contests take place. He got the IBF off of Zab(vacant) but couldn't take it with him to the Cotto fight.
      Clottey blamed that on Cotto not filing the paperwork.

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      • Dave Rado
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        #113
        Originally posted by Team America
        Clottey blamed that on Cotto not filing the paperwork.
        Yes, there's almost always a reason to do with the "sufficient notice" clause.

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        • ColWallace
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          #114
          I saw Abregu fight on the Valero-Demarco undercard. He was up against Gutierrez and it was an intense and violent war. This certainly ain't no tune-up fight.

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          • FloydTBE
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            #115
            tim bradley defo top light welterweight in the world. Hed beat alexnander in my opinion, hes by far the best 140lbs champ.

            I hope he moves up to 147lbs, some epic fights their for him

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            • Rome-By-Ko
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              #116
              Originally posted by Dave Rado
              It's not signed yet. Bradley's team didn't make any attempt to make a deal with Alexander before making this fight with Abregu, and Bradley hasn't ever called Alexander out or expressed interest in fighting him, whereas Alexander has called Bradley out several times. So those who says "no one is willing to fight Bradley" are being economical with the truth.
              Sorry dude you are mistaken.Devon called out bradley when he was the mandatory for Bradley's wbc belt.Bradley felt there was no money in the fight so he fought cmapbell.Then devon fought Witter after that Bradley fought Petterson.Bradley said that if Devon got past jaun he would fight him.But now they want the fight to build up even more.Devon is willing to fight bradley but who else at 140 is?So bradley has to move up.

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              • BoxerDood
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                #117
                Dave, you're way off. For one, Judah called out Alexander as soon as Alexander-Urango was signed because he originally wanted to fight Urango as his reintroduction into the JWW division. Alexander accepted his challenge, saying "We'll see if he feels the same way after the Urango fight", so that fight was already in the talks.

                Your also wrong about Bradley never showing any interest in fighting Alexander. A month ago him and Judah had an argument about who gets to fight him. I remember Judah saying something like "Get your own meat". And a few days ago, when Bradley was asked if he'd fight Alexander, his exact words were "Let's do it!". Yes Alexander was his mandatory at one point, but so was Campbell and he had to fight one of them and vacate the other title. If he chose Alexander and won then people would say he ducked Campbell, I bet.

                He really wants to fight the best. He's called out Ortiz, Maidana, Khan and a few others (all just as dangerous as Alexander, possibly more) and they all declined. Even Roach wasn't interested in Khan fighting him right now. I even remember a time where he was scheduled to fight Jose Luis Castillo but Castillo failed to make 140 by 7lbs (which is why he fights at WW now).

                But anyways, I'm glad to see him finally fighting again. Picking such a risky fight says a lot about his heart, and I expect him to make a statement in a lopsided decision or late stoppage.
                Last edited by BoxerDood; 03-12-2010, 05:25 PM.

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                • Dave Rado
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by BoxerDood
                  Dave, you're way off. For one, Judah called out Alexander as soon as Alexander-Urango was signed because he originally wanted to fight Urango as his reintroduction into the JWW division. Alexander accepted his challenge, saying "We'll see if he feels the same way after the Urango fight", so that fight was already in the talks.

                  Your also wrong about Bradley never showing any interest in fighting Alexander. A month ago him and Judah had an argument about who gets to fight him. I remember Judah saying something like "Get your own meat". And a few days ago, when Bradley was asked if he'd fight Alexander, his exact words were "Let's do it!". Yes Alexander was his mandatory at one point, but so was Campbell and he had to fight one of them and vacate the other title. If he chose Alexander and won then people would say he ducked Campbell, I bet.

                  He really wants to fight the best. He's called out Ortiz, Maidana, Khan and a few others (all just as dangerous as Alexander, possibly more) and they all declined. Even Roach wasn't interested in Khan fighting him right now. I even remember a time where he was scheduled to fight Jose Luis Castillo but Castillo failed to make 140 by 7lbs (which is why he fights at WW now).

                  But anyways, I'm glad to see him finally fighting again. Picking such a risky fight says a lot about his heart, and I expect him to make a statement in a lopsided decision or late stoppage.
                  You may be right about the details, but the fact is that Alexander does want to fight him, and the fact is that the Judah fight isn't signed yet - so if Bradley had tried to make a fight with Alexander immediately after the Urango fight, it's possible that Alexander would have agreed - there's no proof that he wouldn't have.

                  Also, Campbell wants a rematch, and said he was willing to cancel the Ortiz fight (which wasn't yet signed at that point) in order to get one - so that's two leading Jnr Welterweights who do want to fight Bradley, and my point was simply that those who claim there aren't any are wrong. There are two.
                  Last edited by Dave Rado; 03-12-2010, 06:39 PM.

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                  • Iceta Lives
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                    #119
                    Everybody should give Bradley props for fighting a cat like this. I'm not a fan of non-title fights at a disorganized weight, but at least Bradley isn't dragging people up in weight to fight him like Hopkins always does and Berto was doing. I like Alexander's style better than Bradley's. But Bradley has the best attitude in this sport in my opinion when it comes to fighting the right guys and not taking the easy way out.

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