Ring of Fire Radio Episodes 9 and 11.

[Glamour Puss]

No problem man, I know allot of people will discredit your effort too add to the discussion. However, I am truly sincere will I say I believe in listening to everyone's opinions and always trying to be as fair as possible.

As a result, if I am going to be honest with myself. I have to admit
your show add's to the discussion. Plus it is entertaining to say the least.

And for those of you guys who might look at JACK history here boxingscene and then based your opinion about his show soley on that.

I will have to say, you are missing out.

One of my favorite quote of all time.

“The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right sometimes.”- Winston Churchill


So before you guys hate on his show, give it try.
If you really believe you are a truly objective person.

I don't believe objectivity exists. I don't pretend to be objective and never have.

Life is too short for self deception via objectivity or neutrality.

People who say that **** are just lying to themselves.

[Horus]

I don't believe objectivity exists. I don't pretend to be objective and never have.

Life is too short for self deception via objectivity or neutrality.

People who say that **** are just lying to themselves.

that is fine, this is your opinion.
However, I do believe in it.

I believe that a person can removed their personal bias.
In order, to allow themselves to truly understand why someone does what they do.

Too not Practice being objective or neutral at some point in your life.
Is truly a shame. Because if you go through your whole life living the way you just describe...

What have you really learned?
How have you grown?

How can you judge a book by it's cover? Then wonder why all the books seem the same too you?

JACK your style is "Im a badass, and **** authority, blah blah blah."
However, understand this no one knows everything.
The only way to learn anything, is too allow your self too be objective too what someone might tell you.


You do know that people once believe the world was flat?
Just imagine, a world without objectivity.

Maybe you already do

[Glamour Puss]

that is fine, this is your opinion.
However, I do believe in it.

I believe that a person can removed their personal bias.
In order, to allow themselves to truly understand why someone does what they do.

Too not Practice being objective or neutral at some point in your life.
Is truly a shame. Because if you go through your whole life living the way you just describe...

What have you really learned?
How have you grown?

How can you judge a book by it's cover? Then wonder why all the books seem the same too you?

JACK your style is "Im a badass, and **** authority, blah blah blah."
However, understand this no one knows everything.
The only way to learn anything, is too allow your self too be objective too what someone might tell you.


You do know that people once believe the world was flat?
Just imagine, a world without objectivity.

Maybe you already do

Look, I don't really wanna make this about metaphysics or philosophy. I'm a boxing fan on here.

I enjoy talking about boxing. I find it hilarious that people take is so seriously, but its part of what makes it interesting.

I don't judge books by their cover, I've been aware of Mayweathers antics for a good 10 years.

This didn't happen overnight. At one point I didn't mind him at all. My state of mind about him has evolved over 10 years and its only been impacted by his actions.

Thats what I judge him on. Not rhetoric, because anyone can say anything.

I'd venture to say that is the most comprehensive way you can make a decision about somebody.

Frankly, I don't understand your indignation when people criticize him.

This kind of reaction is exactly what he's after so why are his fans upset that other fans attack him?

He asks for attacks in the media. My criticism of him on my show in this regard is actually totally fair. Unless you are saying he can only dish it out but not take it?



But in all "objective" honesty are you going to try and tell me that M

[Horus]

Look, I don't really wanna make this about metaphysics or philosophy. I'm a boxing fan on here.

I enjoy talking about boxing. I find it hilarious that people take is so seriously, but its part of what makes it interesting.

I don't judge books by their cover, I've been aware of Mayweathers antics for a good 10 years.

This didn't happen overnight. At one point I didn't mind him at all. My state of mind about him has evolved over 10 years and its only been impacted by his actions.

Thats what I judge him on. Not rhetoric, because anyone can say anything.

I'd venture to say that is the most comprehensive way you can make a decision about somebody.

Frankly, I don't understand your indignation when people criticize him.

This kind of reaction is exactly what he's after so why are his fans upset that other fans attack him?

He asks for attacks in the media. My criticism of him on my show in this regard is actually totally fair. Unless you are saying he can only dish it out but not take it?



But in all "objective" honesty are you going to try and tell me that M

JACK, I do not agree with almost anything you say.
However, the difference is instead of just saying I do not agree with you just because I know your history. I can say I disagree you because of what you just said.

I can honestly say I do not soley judge you based on your past.

I do not take your stance and say because I have history of your antics fresh in memory and whatever you say in the future does not matter because it is always going to be the same as too what you said in the past.

Do understand the rational behind that stance?

I can go on and on.

My point is this, don't complain about people actions when you are doing the same thing. You can not have both ways.

You dont like Mayweather because he talks ****, and he is disrespectful.

JACK what the hell do you think you are????

How can a criminal complain about another criminal???

Do you understand the logic??



These replies are not ment to be disrespectful at all, just my honest opinion.
However, JACK you need to wise up.
You walking around with a chip on your shoulder, but my question is why??

[Glamour Puss]

JACK, I do not agree with almost anything you say.
However, the difference is instead of just saying I do not agree with you just because I know your history. I can say I disagree you because of what you just said.

I can honestly say I do not soley judge you based on your past.

I do not take your stance and say because I have history of your antics fresh in memory and whatever you say in the future does not matter because it is always going to be the same as too what you said in the past.

Do understand the rational behind that stance?

I can go on and on.

My point is this, don't complain about people actions when you are doing the same thing. You can not have both ways.

You dont like Mayweather because he talks ****, and he is disrespectful.

JACK what the hell do you think you are????

How can a criminal complain about another criminal???

Do you understand the logic??



These replies are not ment to be disrespectful at all, just my honest opinion.
However, JACK you need to wise up.
You walking around with a chip on your shoulder, but my question is why??

The definition of insanity is to expect a different result from a situation that has not given you any reason to expect a different result.

Are you saying I should ignore everything Mayweather has done up till now and then just assume that tomorrow will be different?

It doesn't work that way. I'm also not a criminal. And furthermore, I'm only a **** to Mayweather.

I'm not that way with most other fans or fighters.

Only Mayweather.

Mayweather is an irrational person who has been caught behaving irrationally countless times, why should I assume that all of the sudden he's gonna start doing the right thing?

That would make me crazy.

[Horus]

The definition of insanity is to expect a different result from a situation that has not given you any reason to expect a different result.

Are you saying I should ignore everything Mayweather has done up till now and then just assume that tomorrow will be different?

It doesn't work that way. I'm also not a criminal. And furthermore, I'm only a **** to Mayweather.

I'm not that way with most other fans or fighters.

Only Mayweather.

Mayweather is an irrational person who has been caught behaving irrationally countless times, why should I assume that all of the sudden he's gonna start doing the right thing?

That would make me crazy.

Mayweather is not a situation, Movie, or anything else.
He is a Person. Just like you and me. Meaning he can change!

No, I am not saying you should ignore everything Mayweather has done up till now and then just assume that tomorrow will be different.

I am saying do not soley judge him based on his past..
Imagine if People were SOLEY judge on there past.

How much do you think the WORLD would be different.
People make mistakes, it's natural.
No one is perfect.

The only person or being that should be able to judge anyone on their Past.
Is GOD, if you believe in one.

I just find it ironic, that all the qualities you criticize Mayweather for..
You process.

So who is really the irrational one???
Imagine if I said,

I do not like soda, but all I drink is soda?
I do not like white people, but all my friends and girlfriend is white?
etc, etc..

What would be your response???
The response should be That I am irrational.

Well JACK, I am telling you. Based on your own requirments.
you are also irrational.

Most people find it hard to believe that reason doesn't control our actions. We believe in free will and rational behaviour. The difficulty with those assumptions comes when we see rational people doing irrational things.

For example, no one would argue against the claim that suicide irrational action?

But why is it that it is the rarest of things to see an animal commit suicide? But in contrast we as human beings have come to accept suicide as a common part of life.

With this is mind, who is more rational; Human or Animals when it comes to life?

The point is, JACK why do you really hate Mayweather???
because being irrational can not be the reason.
Because Human are naturally irrational.
Including you.

[Pullcounter]

Look, I don't really wanna make this about metaphysics or philosophy. I'm a boxing fan on here.

I enjoy talking about boxing. I find it hilarious that people take is so seriously, but its part of what makes it interesting.

I don't judge books by their cover, I've been aware of Mayweathers antics for a good 10 years.

This didn't happen overnight. At one point I didn't mind him at all. My state of mind about him has evolved over 10 years and its only been impacted by his actions.

Thats what I judge him on. Not rhetoric, because anyone can say anything.

I'd venture to say that is the most comprehensive way you can make a decision about somebody.

Frankly, I don't understand your indignation when people criticize him.

This kind of reaction is exactly what he's after so why are his fans upset that other fans attack him?

He asks for attacks in the media. My criticism of him on my show in this regard is actually totally fair. Unless you are saying he can only dish it out but not take it?



But in all "objective" honesty are you going to try and tell me that M

actually you right.... there's no such thing as "objective"

[Earl-Hickey]

I really wanted to listen to this, but my iphone doesn't support talkshoe!

[BOLLOCKS]

Are you on?

[Glamour Puss]

I really wanted to listen to this, but my iphone doesn't support talkshoe!

Don't worry mate. You're not missing much.

Are you on?

No, I am not.