Pacquiao is just REGULAR to me...

[PensionKiller]

What's wrong with you?


You want to compare by taking 3 traits from Mayweather when the guy only took 1 trait from Pacquiao?

fail.

And if you take those from Mayweather, you still have a decent boxer. His boxing IQ is unrivaled in the game today. Take away Pacquiao's speed and you got a David Diaz.

OK take away floyd's reflexes and his defense would be good, but he would get hit a lot more. He might be just a little bit better than steve forbes

Take away Manny's speed, you have a more accurate fighter, which it seems that way now.

[DeelDough]

Please, talk with someone. Let your problems out.


Thanks for trolling. Come again later!

Yeah , yeah , thats what a person says when they dont have an answer

[DeelDough]

OK take away floyd's reflexes and his defense would be good, but he would get hit a lot more. He might be just a little bit better than steve forbes

Take away Manny's speed, you have a more accurate fighter, which it seems that way now.

U take away Mannys speed and u have nothing , His killer speed makes his fighting style. Withouth his speed , u have a guy who just throws in bunches. Like someone said , A David Diaz

[Spacey1991]

Ok I get that Pac can beat the snot out of bigger fighters who continuously walk towards him or stand still. But when will he fight someone who has great footwork? The last time that happened he took an L to a man named Eric Morales in their first fight. In fact, every slick or even almost slick boxer that tried to fight Pac was turned down. I'm talking Mosley, Foreman, Malignaggi, Mayweather, Marquez and etc. Idk about everyone else. But I'm not falling for this Mike Tyson (expletive) they have going on over there at Top Rank. (Having a smaller/faster man fight big slow dudes). Until I see Pac beat either Shane or Floyd he's REGULAR to me. I find it funny they Call Mayweather and Malignaggi runners because they have lateral movement yet that is the same (expletive) Pac does againt those slow bums he's been beating. Its like, if you aren't willing to walk towards Pac or stand still all night you won't get a chance to fight him. Yet Pac is in and out and moving all night long. If those guys are runners, so is Pac. I believe Pac can't cut the ring off. That's why he was frustrated against Cotto in the first few rounds and that's why Morales beat him in their first fight. Top Rank is using that Don King/Mike Tyson strategy to hype Pac up. I believe he may never fight Floyd because Roach already knows Pac will take a loss just like Tysons overhyped self did. I don't think he's on roids, or at least I hope not. I just think they are ducking anyone who has legs. In fact I believe they are praying Shane beats Floyd because Shane's footwork isn't as great as Floyds is. So as I said, until Pac fights a different style of fighter, he's REGULAR.

No, hes not. I am getting sick and tired of seeing people call fighters who fight at world level regular, Boxing is a very tough sport and it requires a lot of skill just to fight at world level, never mind being a P4Per.

You can't be ranked as the best P4P fighter in the world or even one of them if you are a regular fighter, there is nothing regular about Mayweather, Pacquiao, Mosley, Hopkins, JMM, etc. It requires a lot of skill to do what they do and fight at the level they do.

[Pullcounter]

pho or gumbo?

PHO!!!

[PensionKiller]

Ur intelligence is not enough to understand my point so Im not even wasting my time.

My point is, if a boxer is much better at brawling, but using his brain, then so be it.

Floyd wouldn't be able to do what Pac does, and Pac isn't able to do what Floyd does.

If Floyd tried to brawl at 147, he would most definitely have trouble.

[PensionKiller]

U take away Mannys speed and u have nothing , His killer speed makes his fighting style. Withouth his speed , u have a guy who just throws in bunches. Like someone said , A David Diaz

Manny is very accurate with his speed. Take that away, he still has angles but hits the target more.

Judah has speed, but the man throws wild shots that do not always miss, and his footwork makes some of his punches wrong.

Check out Pac's footwork and see him generate angles for the power and shots.

His speed is his best asset I admit, but he comes out with much more. Step back, take off that hater tee shirt you're wearing, then you'll notice it.

Pac has already gotten slower, watch his older fights, but he has improved. He has always had an awkward rhythm that only the best and most patient fighters can work out.

Pac's timining is also better. He timed Cotto quite well, and that could be to do with the fact that he has to respect these bigger guys.

If you take Floyd's speed away, then he would be a good boxer, not a great boxer.

[Spacey1991]

U take away Mannys speed and u have nothing , His killer speed makes his fighting style. Withouth his speed , u have a guy who just throws in bunches. Like someone said , A David Diaz

You can say that about any fighter though, if Mosley didn't have the strength and power he does he wouldn't have stopped as many fighters as he has, if Floyd didn't have the defense and reflexes he wouldn't outbox people so convincingly, you can take away anybody's advantages and act like they wouldn't be good without them.

[DeelDough]

My point is, if a boxer is much better at brawling, but using his brain, then so be it.

Floyd wouldn't be able to do what Pac does, and Pac isn't able to do what Floyd does.

If Floyd tried to brawl at 147, he would most definitely have trouble.

WTF is ur problem , who is talking bout that. Lets not make this a Floyd-Pac thread , I mentioned more fighters in my post i.e( Gamboa , Tyson etc.. etc)

Let me try and put my thoughts in small easy words u can understand.

WHAT MAKES PAC A BEAST IS HIS SPEED!!! WITHOUTH IT , HE IS NOTHING.

NOTHING

[PensionKiller]

WTF is ur problem , who is talking bout that. Lets not make this a Floyd-Pac thread , I mentioned more fighters in my post i.e( Gamboa , Tyson etc.. etc)

Let me try and put my thoughts in small easy words u can understand.

WHAT MAKES PAC A BEAST IS HIS SPEED!!! WITHOUTH IT , HE IS NOTHING.

NOTHING

Without speed, most of the best boxers are normal.

That goes for SRR, TYSON, ALI ETC...

Tyson has power, but his speed and combinations made him what he was.

Ali had a sick ass jab and speed at heavyweight that hurt

SRR has world speed that will always be in the top 10

As stated, speed in boxing kills.