I Have Figured out the Difference Between You People

[Mr. Anonymous]

Pac Fans vs Mayweather Fans, and the best thing about this thread is I'm not about to insult anyone, I'm simply telling it like it is.

The problem we have here is very simple, Mayweather fans are logical and they simply refer to facts to back up any statements they make about Floyd or Pac.

Pac fans are emotional and base their defense of Pacquiao off their emotional attachment to the fighter.

I like both fighters, but I'll be damn if I am emotionally attached to either. I just call it like it is. IMO, Floyd is the best fighter in the world not Pac. Why, cause the way he fights (his skills and ring intelligence) is superior in my opinion. Thats it, plain and simple.

With Drug testing, we have video evidence that Roach asked for more time to prepare for Mayweather, he also said Pac will pass any test, he originally wanted a 3 day cutoff and that somehow got moved to 30!!! These ARE FACTS!! Pac signed to fight Clottey while in the middle of negotiations with Floyd, This is a FACT!! Since when does the guy whose trying to make the fight get accused of ducking?

Pac fans go on an emotional attack about why Floyd even asking for a test anyway, they say he saw what Pac did to Cotto and Hatton and now he's scared!! This, imo, is all emotional opinionated garbage...show me proof that he saw what Pac did to Hatton and he's scared?

Pac fans and his own PR Team love to emphasize that he is from a smaller weight class, fighting bigger fighters, etc...and then when he knocks them out, expects that there should be no questions asked. If he is as small as you claim, and he's knocking out and walking through punches of natural welterweights, then Sh-T!!! He does need to submit to random drug testing!! He does need to prove he's not on PED's.

If a Baseball Player starts breaking home run records he need to prove it was natural. Same for a boxer, no different. Or does the emotional attachment to that particular athlete makes all the difference?

what would we do without you! Thanks Man!

[Tamis!]

Pac fans in this thread are only proving my point, but of course you know that already, by the way I have never sent anyone a Red K, I dont see the point.

No red K sent your way mate...just wanna clarify something tho...

Are you referring to so called emotions within *******s when they claim and justify any of these:

1. Pac will not bow down to Mayweather's demands
2. Why did pac threw almost $40m for not taking the test (peeps got this all wrong always, pac NEVER turned down the test, he said yes, just not close to the fight, and even a blood test right AFTER the fight is not good enough for non-believers)
3. Innocent until proven guilty..and finally:
4. Pac is clean, so why should he take the test,?

More to the point, do you find *******s here in Boxingscene emotional because they rally behind pac and all these accusations that don't have any imperical evidence at all and are just ugly conclusions that he's dirty?

I could be wrong, but as i see it, it's not emotional, it's just plain realistic nationalism.

90 million filipinos are fully aware of how pac rose to poverty to become what he is right now because of hardwork and perseverance and faith in a divine power, and being an example to each one of them, you can't blame these guys if they get emotional when these guys read and hear people just throw baseless accusations at their HERO because if anyone knew what pac had been thru, it's the filipinos for cryin' out loud. You can't mix cultural value and self proprietary (delicadeza) with the way people think like how he could be $40m richer and the so called IF I'M CLEAN I'LL TAKE THE DAMN TEST. That's not how most filipinos roll...

You are spot-on with what you figured out between PAC and FMJ fans, if you're not emotional and you're thrilled by skill then it's good to go!

But you'll have rough sailing with *******s indeed If I'm right that it's their nationalism and cultural ideals that drives them to be emotional, coz people who believe manny's nuts not taking a $25m test because of Sr. baseless accusation against people enraged because their idol manny's accused on roids without evidence and his legacy tainted face a blank brick wall. Being realistic and principle driven are sometimes apples and oranges.

I just dont get how you describe FMJ fans and their logic and fact-sticker, coz majority don't, they just have that personal agenda to exalt their idol, which is expected of a fan wait. 2 secs to reload the image

Love both fighters by the way, but I'm from the three stars and a sun...

[carts]

floydie Has contradicted himself many times.. *****s gulped his ******ity and hypocrisy .......... nuff said..

[boxing2106]

there's no difference. things have gotten so bad on nonstop boxing that all people do is shout at each other back and forth.

trying to make floyd fans look smart is ******. they are just as emotional.

how you sound.. im a floyd fan but im not emotional about him..the average pac fan is filipino and they go hard for thier guy cuz of nationalism. but the average floyd fan just likes his display of skill and ring generalship. thier are some floyd fans that are also emotional but nothing compared to pacfans

[boxing2106]

No red K sent your way mate...just wanna clarify something tho...

Are you referring to so called emotions within *******s when they claim and justify any of these:

1. Pac will not bow down to Mayweather's demands
2. Why did pac threw almost $40m for not taking the test (peeps got this all wrong always, pac NEVER turned down the test, he said yes, just not close to the fight, and even a blood test right AFTER the fight is not good enough for non-believers)
3. Innocent until proven guilty..and finally:
4. Pac is clean, so why should he take the test,?

More to the point, do you find *******s here in Boxingscene emotional because they rally behind pac and all these accusations that don't have any imperical evidence at all and are just ugly conclusions that he's dirty?

I could be wrong, but as i see it, it's not emotional, it's just plain realistic nationalism.

90 million filipinos are fully aware of how pac rose to poverty to become what he is right now because of hardwork and perseverance and faith in a divine power, and being an example to each one of them, you can't blame these guys if they get emotional when these guys read and hear people just throw baseless accusations at their HERO because if anyone knew what pac had been thru, it's the filipinos for cryin' out loud. You can't mix cultural value and self proprietary (delicadeza) with the way people think like how he could be $40m richer and the so called IF I'M CLEAN I'LL TAKE THE DAMN TEST. That's not how most filipinos roll...

You are spot-on with what you figured out between PAC and FMJ fans, if you're not emotional and you're thrilled by skill then it's good to go!

But you'll have rough sailing with *******s indeed If I'm right that it's their nationalism and cultural ideals that drives them to be emotional, coz people who believe manny's nuts not taking a $25m test because of Sr. baseless accusation against people enraged because their idol manny's accused on roids without evidence and his legacy tainted face a blank brick wall. Being realistic and principle driven are sometimes apples and oranges.

I just dont get how you describe FMJ fans and their logic and fact-sticker, coz majority don't, they just have that personal agenda to exalt their idol, which is expected of a fan wait. 2 secs to reload the image

Love both fighters by the way, but I'm from the three stars and a sun...

spot on ! i posted something as well about it being nationalism. blame arum for selling pac to the filipinos. just like he does with cotto.. ooh philipines vs puerto rico why does he always make it a country vs country and the answer is to make money. i mean hes rich nd still wants more money i hate that bastard

[Khalid X]

Honestly...there are @sshole posters on both sides. You can't label pac fans that when there a tons of Floyd fans that fit your description and vice versa.

[Tamis!]

spot on ! i posted something as well about it being nationalism. blame arum for selling pac to the filipinos. just like he does with cotto.. ooh philipines vs puerto rico why does he always make it a country vs country and the answer is to make money. i mean hes rich nd still wants more money i hate that bastard

Cheers mate!

Like i've always maintained all these that Pac's been goin' through is all crocodile ARUM's fault man! Pac's too humble and too much of a YES MAN and i feel that ARUM's exploiting him! Now his beef with FMJ and GBP dragged a good man into all this mess!

[Carpe Diem]

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=342325&highlight=timeline

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=357344&highlight=timeline

*****s doesn't use logical facts.

[M.I.C.]

No red K sent your way mate...just wanna clarify something tho...

Are you referring to so called emotions within *******s when they claim and justify any of these:

1. Pac will not bow down to Mayweather's demands
2. Why did pac threw almost $40m for not taking the test (peeps got this all wrong always, pac NEVER turned down the test, he said yes, just not close to the fight, and even a blood test right AFTER the fight is not good enough for non-believers)
3. Innocent until proven guilty..and finally:
4. Pac is clean, so why should he take the test,?

More to the point, do you find *******s here in Boxingscene emotional because they rally behind pac and all these accusations that don't have any imperical evidence at all and are just ugly conclusions that he's dirty?

I could be wrong, but as i see it, it's not emotional, it's just plain realistic nationalism.

90 million filipinos are fully aware of how pac rose to poverty to become what he is right now because of hardwork and perseverance and faith in a divine power, and being an example to each one of them, you can't blame these guys if they get emotional when these guys read and hear people just throw baseless accusations at their HERO because if anyone knew what pac had been thru, it's the filipinos for cryin' out loud. You can't mix cultural value and self proprietary (delicadeza) with the way people think like how he could be $40m richer and the so called IF I'M CLEAN I'LL TAKE THE DAMN TEST. That's not how most filipinos roll...

You are spot-on with what you figured out between PAC and FMJ fans, if you're not emotional and you're thrilled by skill then it's good to go!

But you'll have rough sailing with *******s indeed If I'm right that it's their nationalism and cultural ideals that drives them to be emotional, coz people who believe manny's nuts not taking a $25m test because of Sr. baseless accusation against people enraged because their idol manny's accused on roids without evidence and his legacy tainted face a blank brick wall. Being realistic and principle driven are sometimes apples and oranges.

I just dont get how you describe FMJ fans and their logic and fact-sticker, coz majority don't, they just have that personal agenda to exalt their idol, which is expected of a fan wait. 2 secs to reload the image

Love both fighters by the way, but I'm from the three stars and a sun...

Good intelligent reply and I think you are right in many ways, when I refer to someone as a ******* however, I have no idea what their nationality is, I just see them as an anonymous poster. I simply see it as a drug test, whats to defend or get emotional about that for. As you said, just take the test. In America if you want something usually there is a test to get it. I am an educator and test is normal to me. A blood test doesn't even require study, I've been in the military when they say give blood, god damn it, you give blood. This is just basic, standard, protocol, I have never seen anyone in any sport cry this bad over a blood test. So though Floyd's request is new an unusual in boxing, Pacquiao crying over it is new as well, honestly, who could of expected he'd cry and whine like this?

Cotto clearly stated that he didn't like the idea of having to make a catchweight and no one expected him to, but he did it. Its okay for Pac to say he doesn't like giving blood but in the end you still do it. For me, walking away from that fight caused me to lose respect for the guy. Was I a Pac fan up till that point, yes I was. Am I a fan now, not really. Cause I simply dont like cheaters or people who refuse to prove they are not a cheat. I guess the fact that I am not emotionally vested in Pacquiao enables me to step on the outside and see it through "what they call a ***** point of view"

Shane is taking the test, Floyd is taking the test, why cant Pac take the test?? The answer is he can, he just simply wont and I dont buy his reasons why.

[Jamel H]

"*****s" have a victim complex because their favourite fighter is always being attacked, and "*******s" just like to antagonise people for their own amusement.

both can be pretty annoying.

Yes indeed lol but overall I go based on the FACTS, I dont choose sides... It is what it is