Chad Dawson May fight Lucian Bute after Pascal bout

[Njord777]

nope. he was on hbo 2 years ago.

Which fight was that? I know the first Andrade fight was still on Showtime, not HBO...and that was two years ago.

I was fairly sure his HBO debut came in the rematch back in November.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I also found an article that stated:

Hats off to Lucian Bute. Having been bypassed by Showtime's 168 pound Super Six tournament, Bute made his HBO debut a memorable one, and in the process cemented his status as one of the division's elite.

With a 4th round stoppage victory over Librade Andrade, the Montreal southpaw didn't just set the record straight, but pulled off what many felt was impossible. Nothing should surprise us in this sport, but anyone that doesn't admit to being shocked at the sight of Andrade being counted out is telling a tall one.

[Njord777]

Also, I've read that Showtime stated it's reasons for not inviting either Bute or Pavlik were supposedly because those two were priced too high for an invitation to be economically feasible for the network.

[SpinDoctor]

Which fight was that? I know the first Andrade fight was still on Showtime, not HBO...and that was two years ago.

I was fairly sure his HBO debut came in the rematch back in November.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I also found an article that stated:

Hats off to Lucian Bute. Having been bypassed by Showtime's 168 pound Super Six tournament, Bute made his HBO debut a memorable one, and in the process cemented his status as one of the division's elite.

With a 4th round stoppage victory over Librade Andrade, the Montreal southpaw didn't just set the record straight, but pulled off what many felt was impossible. Nothing should surprise us in this sport, but anyone that doesn't admit to being shocked at the sight of Andrade being counted out is telling a tall one.

Oh yea, andrade bute 1 was on showtime, my mistake, But from most of the articles I read about the super six and why he wasn't invited they said he wasn't invited because he signed with hbo.

[Njord777]

Oh yea, andrade bute 1 was on showtime, my mistake, But from most of the articles I read about the super six and why he wasn't invited they said he wasn't invited because he signed with hbo.

I don't think so. That was why it was partly seen as a slight that, for whatever reason, Showtime didn't invite him to the super six. I'm fairly sure the HBO contract came after the Super Six, almost as HBO's way of creating their roster of alternative super middleweight fighters.

I found an interesting article on this whole thing. Here's a piece of it:

As previously reported, on April 17, HBO is planning on airing a split-site doubleheader, with the undercard being Lucian Bute against Edison Miranda in Montreal, and Kelly Pavlik facing Sergio Martinez in the main event. Pavlik's fight hasn't been officially worked out yet, but either way, Pavlik will be getting that spot. Just one issue - on April 17, Showtime is also airing its own split site doubleheader, with Andre Ward facing Allan Green and Mikkel Kessler facing Carl Froch.

That's right folks - HBO is squaring its own super middleweight directly head to head with Showtime's lauded super middleweight tournament.

This is a case of pure gamesmanship by HBO. Showtime put in the effort and is putting in the money to make the Super Six tournament happen. While it's still an exciting event and Showtime should be lauded for their efforts, it did not invite either Pavlik or Bute to participate in the tournament. If you believe Showtime, it's because they would have been too expensive, and if you believe the conspiracy theorists, it's because Kalle Sauerland was trying to set up a tournament where his fighters - Abraham and Kessler - would be in the finals. Ironically, Pavlik in his last fight probably made a fraction of what Kessler or Abraham are making on a per fight basis to participate in the tournament.

Because Pavlik and Bute were not invited, HBO is using the opportunity to build up its own super middleweight, the HBO way. Rather than having an egalitarian tournament to determine the winner of the spoils, HBO knows that Bute and Pavlik are the two biggest threats to the winner of the Super Six. HBO also knows that if Bute and Pavlik fight each other down the line, the winner of that fight would likely be in the top 2 in the weight class, and thus the winner of the Super Six won't be a true champion.

[Iceta Lives]

One question I do have though. Why is it that Bernard Hopkins gets slated for fighting smaller fighters when Chad Dawson is pretty much saying he's gonna do the same thing? And they both have Tarver and Johnson on their resume? I mean, didn't Trinidad get his feet wet at 160 like Pascal did at 175? But I guess looking down the latter is something that only Hopkins takes heat for on here. There's a frigging 19 page thread about it. And Hopkins had to do the same thing that Dawson is doing today, which is fight smaller fighters in some cases because the division that he was in had fighters that weren't as good as the fighters moving up.

[The_Demon]

chad dawson is the LHW king