Can't Have It Both Ways, Either U Support Random DRUG Testing or U Don't!!!

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Horus
    Greatest Of My Era
    • Dec 2007
    • 10220
    • 772
    • 112
    • 18,146

    #351
    Originally posted by Eaner0919
    shouldnt that be a good thing though?
    really it should

    Comment

    • Horus
      Greatest Of My Era
      • Dec 2007
      • 10220
      • 772
      • 112
      • 18,146

      #352
      Originally posted by helenmia
      after the maywather farse, i think drug testing of pacman is essential, i dont believe for a second that he is on roids but alot do, and i know if i was him, i would want to clear my name and would be demanding one live on national tv.

      I believe the boxing board of control should have a drug test (not random), 2 weeks before and immeditatly after the fight for all major world title fights from now on.

      that will stop all this bollox about is he? isnt he? debate from any fighter.
      This is shame that people are actually against Random drug test.
      Even in this era of PED's

      Comment

      • Eaner0919
        Undisputed Champion
        Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
        • Nov 2004
        • 8625
        • 370
        • 80
        • 15,578

        #353
        Originally posted by Chuckguy
        yeah e no doubt
        but im talking about coming from fighters who are dirty and they know it
        im not going to mention any names cause i dont know who they are
        well here is how I see it bro

        if they have been dirty in their career then leveling their playing field so that those that do not should expose that right?

        if they haven't been dirty then I got to think they feel a sigh of relief knowing the playing field got a bit more level

        and to those who say only Mayweather fans think its a good thing because Floyd asked I have long been on the side that we need better testing in boxing for years

        to me boxing is really the last bastion where testing is so diluted, so disjointed, so bad that you can literally go state to state without ever testing for anything

        didn't Texas state that testing would not be done this weekend?

        yet go to Calif and Nevada and testing would have been done

        one uniform stringent testing system does need to be implemented either at a state or governing body level

        Comment

        • damned1974
          Undisputed Champion
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Sep 2009
          • 3981
          • 472
          • 323
          • 16,857

          #354
          Originally posted by Horus
          This is shame that people are actually against Random drug test.
          Even in this era of PED's
          What I find bizarre from most posts on this subject is that the majority of people opposed to these forms of testing happen to be Pacquiao fans (coincidence?).It would be interesting to see if these people would continue to justify their rigidity on these tests or form excuses IF Manny was tested positive.
          My thought is-If it is a step in the right direction, more strict than NSAC's watered-down version of careless testing, and can give any user of PED's second thoughts-then why oppose it? Why not embrace a change from the testing that has allowed other athletes to slip through the cracks?
          Pacquiao die hard fans that oppose this should ask themselves if it is a POSSIBILITY for Manny or any other fighter to abuse these substances.The answer is easy-it is a "yes".All fighters should be held to strict standards of testing.Probably more-so than other athletes since this is a combat sport and not just hitting/throwing a baseball...
          Ultimately,as Manny had his own stipulations such as the $10,000,000 weight penalty (if Floyd was over the WW limit,he would not be allowed to fight in a WW fight.No commission would support this),there is nothing wrong with Floyd having his own single request.It is a simple trade off.The "bullying" excuse made from Manny and Co. is a piece of trash excuse...if Manny was confident of a victory in the ring,he would not be playing victim...(ironically,Freddie Roach had said he needed until later this year-not March,as that is a date too soon, to train Manny how to approach a boxer of Floyd's style...even now Freddie hasn't completed his "gameplan" as he has admitted just yesterday)...
          Last edited by damned1974; 03-11-2010, 02:06 PM.

          Comment

          • flexxx145
            Banned
            • Dec 2009
            • 2085
            • 87
            • 106
            • 2,291

            #355
            Originally posted by damned1974
            What I find bizarre from most posts on this subject is that the majority of people opposed to these forms of testing happen to be Pacquiao fans (coincidence?).It would be interesting to see if these people would continue to justify their rigidity on these tests or form excuses IF Manny was tested positive.
            My thought is-If it is a step in the right direction, more strict than NSAC's watered-down version of careless testing, and can give any user of PED's second thoughts-then why oppose it? Why not embrace a change from the testing that has allowed other athletes to slip through the cracks?
            Pacquiao die hard fans that oppose this should ask themselves if it is a POSSIBILITY for Manny or any other fighter to abuse these substances.The answer is easy-it is a "yes".All fighters should be held to strict standards of testing.Probably more-so than other athletes since this is a combat sport and not just hitting/throwing a baseball...
            Ultimately,as Manny had his own stipulations such as the $10,000,000 weight penalty (if Floyd was over the WW limit,he would not be allowed to fight in a WW fight.No commission would support this),there is nothing wrong with Floyd having his own single request.It is a simple trade off.The "bullying" excuse made from Manny and Co. is a piece of trash excuse...if Manny was confident of a victory in the ring,he would not be playing victim...(ironically,Freddie Roach had said he needed until later this year-not March,as that is a date too soon, to train Manny how to approach a boxer of Floyd's style...even now Freddie hasn't completed his "gameplan" as he has admitted just yesterday)...
            good post!

            Comment

            • Horus
              Greatest Of My Era
              • Dec 2007
              • 10220
              • 772
              • 112
              • 18,146

              #356
              Originally posted by damned1974
              What I find bizarre from most posts on this subject is that the majority of people opposed to these forms of testing happen to be Pacquiao fans (coincidence?).It would be interesting to see if these people would continue to justify their rigidity on these tests or form excuses IF Manny was tested positive.
              My thought is-If it is a step in the right direction, more strict than NSAC's watered-down version of careless testing, and can give any user of PED's second thoughts-then why oppose it? Why not embrace a change from the testing that has allowed other athletes to slip through the cracks?
              Pacquiao die hard fans that oppose this should ask themselves if it is a POSSIBILITY for Manny or any other fighter to abuse these substances.The answer is easy-it is a "yes".All fighters should be held to strict standards of testing.Probably more-so than other athletes since this is a combat sport and not just hitting/throwing a baseball...
              Ultimately,as Manny had his own stipulations such as the $10,000,000 weight penalty (if Floyd was over the WW limit,he would not be allowed to fight in a WW fight.No commission would support this),there is nothing wrong with Floyd having his own single request.It is a simple trade off.The "bullying" excuse made from Manny and Co. is a piece of trash excuse...if Manny was confident of a victory in the ring,he would not be playing victim...(ironically,Freddie Roach had said he needed until later this year-not March,as that is a date too soon, to train Manny how to approach a boxer of Floyd's style...even now Freddie hasn't completed his "gameplan" as he has admitted just yesterday)...


              Pacquiao fans are the true definition of Blind Followers.
              They will denounce a A GREAT precedence for drug testing in boxing which would be great for the sport in order to not have too simply criticized their fighter...

              ****ING PLAIN AND SIMPLE. MAJORITY OF HIS FANBASE OPERATES LIKE A CULT.

              Comment

              • Pullcounter
                no guts no glory
                Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                • Jan 2004
                • 42582
                • 549
                • 191
                • 49,739

                #357
                its simple *****s, if you want pac to take the tests, then tell floyd to go to the commission

                Comment

                • Horus
                  Greatest Of My Era
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 10220
                  • 772
                  • 112
                  • 18,146

                  #358
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter
                  its simple *****s, if you want pac to take the tests, then tell floyd to go to the commission
                  which one?
                  did pacquiao need the commission for his 10 million dollar pen.?

                  Comment

                  • Pullcounter
                    no guts no glory
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 42582
                    • 549
                    • 191
                    • 49,739

                    #359
                    Originally posted by Horus
                    which one?
                    did pacquiao need the commission for his 10 million dollar pen.?
                    NSAC.... I know that's where floyd wants to fight cause that's the only place xylocaine is legal (just kidding about the xylocaine)

                    Comment

                    • DondiNeverLeft
                      RedKmakes U happy lol
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 3299
                      • 247
                      • 31
                      • 9,700

                      #360
                      Originally posted by Horus
                      which one?
                      did pacquiao need the commission for his 10 million dollar pen.?
                      Nice response.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP